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Water4Gas scam...

Discussion in 'ClickBank' started by alexs464, Jun 26, 2008.

  1. webtarded

    webtarded Peon

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    #41
    Your statement seems to contradict itself. You're half right in that you can't get more energy out than you put in unless you can magically violate the laws of thermodynamics. What's wrong is that the energy for electrolysis does indeed come from the engine. It just happens to pass through the battery on the way to it's point of use. Unless of course you're talking about an unsteady state and you've disconnected the battery from the charging circuit and are only using the energy that's stored in it initially. But even then, the energy in the battery had to come from somewhere. As you've noted, Conservation of energy trumps all.SEMrush
     
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    web_18designer - I don't think it's a scam. There are too many proofs for this, with the biggest proof in the form of refund rates. If I'd thought it's a scam, I wouldn't promote it.

    I'm not a mechanic, so I don't know how this MPG improvement is coming. I'm using common sense and the best indicator for this type of product - the market (AKA best-selling on ClickBank with a low refund rate).

    nadavs
     
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    bl4ckmaN^ Well-Known Member

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    #43
    Agree with nadavs.

    If something is a scam, it doesn't sell and has a huge refund rate. According to Clickbank statistics you can't say that about Water4Gas.
     
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    #44
    If I didn't know better, this is just a ploy to get people to come to his website. It ranks up there with adword ads calling a product a scam, when we all know it's just to try and sell you something.

    He's doesn't exactly say why it's a scam either. He also talks about how he's going to test it out and what not. Guess what? He's going to build it, find out that there is somewhat of an "improvement", and now he's got all these people "excited", he will start turning people into buyers.

    Somewhere down the line he will be providing a link with his affiliate id attached, in some form or another.
     
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    #45



    Look at doublingstocks ; huge sales and quite high refunds, why ? Because it is easy to find out quickly after you purchased the product that it is junk.

    Water4gas takes much more time to find out that it doesn't work because you have to put this thing in practice.
    Most people don't put it in practice , most just buy this product out of curiosity and will never know if it it works until the day they test it out in practice > few refunds

    So the point of few refunds as a barometer for the quality of this product is rather pointless.
     
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  6. bl4ckmaN^

    bl4ckmaN^ Well-Known Member

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    #46
    digi1

    Ok, it might take longer to see whether it works properly or not, but water4gas has been on Clickbank for long, long time and if the product would have any problems it would eventually started to slowly go down, like as you said, as Doubling Stocks.

    However, I can only see the gravity of water4gas to raise every week.
     
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    #47
    The price of oil reached today another record high....that is why W4G is still growing
    the market conditions for this product are getting better day by day as the price of oil keeps going up.
    The price of oil doubled since last year
     
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    bl4ckmaN^ Well-Known Member

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    #48
    I've heard that oil will finish in 2050 ;) Don't know if that's true though
     
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    #49
    Oil will never be finished - it will just be harder and harder to get to the point where we'll go on to a new resource.
     
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    #50
    [​IMG]

    The above image is the price of crude oil , the one below the alexa ranking of W4G, both started to rise beginning of february in close correlation
     
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    #52
    lolllllllllllllllllll... lame. I like $5 a gallon... and this product is as lame as they say..
     
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    #53
    A little off topic - but just want to raise some awareness re Mr. Garbar a.k.a. BigHKong who was recently banned - but just look how creative this guy is - http://ewealth.com/showthread.php?p=134425#post134425 << Hey Alex - I think you should show this guy some love lol....
     
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    alexs464 Well-Known Member

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    Wow... just wow!
    I flagged his thread on eWealth ;)
     
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    #55
    Wehhh, i think you are contradicting yourself... before u said that its a scam and now you are saying its not...

    Anyways the fact is that the technology is not a scam period (My Car is a live proof of that)....When people say that its a scam its because they dont do it properly or they dont do it at all and give up.
    Then they blame that its the book faulth and not becuase they are not able to build such a system...however, the sales page of all water fuel products are greatly misleading since they state that its easy and anyone can do it - in reality you need to have some background to do such a thing and it might not work the first time.
     
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    #56
    scamm3rz... get ready for massive pwn4ge!!!!!!!!!!!! ..don't take everything at face-value. There is a line between every line.
     
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    web_18designer - I never said it's a scam. I said that everyone who claims to get more energy on hydrogen combusion than the energy invested in electrolysis is lying. I also said there is no free energy. I never said it's a scam.

    nadavs
     
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    I did though... they're scamm3rz.. sc4|\/|3rz!!!!! 0_o (in the most literal sense of the word)... ..ty for posting this thread!
     
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    #59
    lol:rolleyes: ok ok dont worry you never said its a scam then,,,you are just saying it dosent work which means (if you do some super advanced maths) 4+3=212+-X = scam

    Just take it in a simple way like this:

    - Water have lot of Chemical energy stored within.(Hydrogen)
    - So, its just a matter of extracting that energy.
    - The common ways requires more energy for the extraction then the output.
    - But, there are other ways that the extraction can be done with very little energy - therefore getting more energy from water than the input needed.
    - Such technology exists but is not widely available "yet" for various reasons : ie : oil companies, government, stupid people that are closed minded.

    After all, just think about it, what will happen if we dont use oil anymore? Lot of things will change, lot of people will loose their job, the world as we know it will be no more for good or bad.

    Free Energy? that dosent mean anything. thers no free energy just because people sell it for their profits. If instead of water in the ocean, we had oil, we could have used it and that would have been "free" energy...

    But anyways im sure that you are the type of person that is not very open minded so dont worry if you dont understand...cheers:)
     
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    Your little rants are getting quite spammy. You just say its a scam
    after every post would you mind giving us a reason why you think its a
    scam when there a clearly people that have converted their cars and got
    better fuel efficiency?
     
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