Who cares about Islam except the fact that so many of the people here are outspoken towards it. Islam is a tool of the enemy, but the enemy is much bigger than Islam.
What profit? As far as I heared that war costs money and not earns money. Or you can provide other information ? (from sources a little more reliable than youtube?)
The money borrowed for the war was borrowed from the Federal Reserve printing it and loaning it to us and all of our income tax is now going to paying the interest rate on it. It's the scam of the millennium. The elite is rising and we are falling. Plain and simple. Our politicians are whores to the elite. There is no President of the United States. One cannot rise unless compliant and submissive to the elite controlling our banking system.
Exactly correct. The federal reserve was what pushed America off the pirate ships board. This is what Andrew Jackson and the founders fought so hard to make sure wouldn't come to our country, a central banking system. Now, the psychopaths that control our money supply are in bed with global central banksters and the UN, two deadly combination when it comes to achieving true liberty and freedom in the states again.
So this post is no longer about an inquiry but about "The Great Satan?" - It scares me to see this many people who actually believe that 9/11 was an inside job.
Where are the sources and references I asked for or you just like to write crap for the fun of it? Do you even read the non-sense that you write? LOL. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve_System read at least from the title to the contents box and educate yourself with the fascinating piece of knowledge: "What is the scope, purpose, and procedures of the Federal Reserve?". Now for conspiracies: And assuming that the fed gets richer from the war (which is not the case, but still), how will any individual who works for the fed benefit from it? these guys are on paychecks anyhow (and transparent paychecks) regardless of the financial success or failure of the fed, no? so we lack the "motivation" element. Besides, the "elites" - the rich people, are living sweet lives in villas and flying private jets, and as a world-wide rule - in all societies - and in contrary to the idiotic belief of conspiracy theory lovers, are always the layer of society which is the least eager to go to war - because it has the most to lose. How would bill gates or warren buffet or any other from the top 1% of the American society will benefit from the war? Instability is bad for business, not good. Richer people pay more taxes. or, for dummies: The fed gets richer = the government gets richer = you get richer. But for the Iraq war case: The fed got poorer = the government got poorer = you got poorer + the rich people, or "elites", who made themselves rich because poor and uneducated people like you buy the junk they manufacture and sell, got MUCH poorer as well - because now you have less money to spend on their junk + their taxes increased much more than yours did. Capish? ////////////////////////////////////////// p.s. not that you will read any real knowledge but just in the unlikely case, try to learn the first introduction to most basic, fundamental macroeconomics. http://www.econmodel.com/classic/islm1.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keynesian_economics http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spending_multiplier <--- in your world, the Spending multiplier in America is less than 1? bad for you, it is actually one of the highest in the world. And don't ask me why I waste my time teaching you this basic stuff...I hope that you are 15 or below... or else... I feel sorry for you.... ////////////////////////////////////////////
So you believe out of thousands of people, if they were given enough money not would would have said no? That means that given enough money, anyone on this planet would have no problem assisting in killing thousands of people. It also means I must be unique as I could never do that, but obviously you could. Also after the fact and after they got thier money, some maybe even spent it, not one would have a change of heart and talked? That's just sheer stupidity. All you people do is try to pick apart details, knowing nothing about nothing, in an event that has never happened when all along the big picture of your conspieacy in itself is impossible.
It's much deeper than 9/11 being an inside job. The policies of our country are completely corrupt. Our government believes in building this powerful empire by taking over countries and trying to be the policeman of the world. We invade other countries in unconstitutional wars which leads to major blowback against our nation. The "terrorists" hate is not because we are a free country, there are plenty of free countries. They hate us because of our polices and how we attempt to overrule every nation that disagrees with us. So the belief that 9/11 was an inside job is really unimportant at this moment. Sure, hundreds of firefighters that were in the buildings stated publicly that they heard many explosives throughout the building. Sure, World Trade Center 7 fell to the ground in a demolition manner without being hit by any plane. Sure, the twin towers fell in a demolition style. What's important to realize, even if you don't believe our government was behind this in any way whatsoever is that there were explosives. Tons of evidences was found at the crash site linking it to highly explosive material. Our government has continued to keep the full story from it's people and pursue a war with OUR money and OUR liberties while pursuing their corrupt agendas. Many people don't understand that America is turning into a police state just like what has happened in the EU and China. Do you really think it's a coincidence all of this has came tumbling down since 2000? Read the top guys novels and true history, then form your own opinion just as I have. Don't listen to the liberal media who is owned and paid to cover certain topics and bash anything to do with true freedom and liberty coming to America. According to these top people, this is their century of change. Change into a technocracy, totalitarian police state. Out with the old American laws and in with the new.
So just out of curiosity, why did they bring down WTC 7? To hide evidence? Blowing up a building does not hide evidence, it just makes it fly all over the place and easy to find. You do know that back in 2001 they did have paper shredders right? Now humor me and pretend that the towers fell due to the planes, just how were they supposed to fall? Up? Sideways? The only reference we have for falling buildings is from controlled demolition, there is nothing else to compare it to as this event has never happened before. Bottom line, the big picture is impossible and all your points have been addressed and proved false or out right lies. Fine, the US government may not be the nicest bunch of people but there are a lot of evil people out there in other countries and they are hell bent on killing as many innocent people as they can.
Why did the bring down WTC 7? I believe the true question you should be asking is, How did WTC 7 fall down without being hit by a plane or any major debris. I'm in no way saying they were trying to hide evidence, you made that conclusion yourself, so please keep your argument points reasonable. As for the buildings falling, I'm not saying they were assisted or weren't assisted in coming down. What I'm saying is this, many firefighters and people outside of the building have testomonies stating that they heard numerous explosions from inside the building, above and below them. Now, I don't know about you but if people(including a main fire chief I believe) say they heard explosives at different parts of the buildings than I'm going to take their word. Then again, I've also learned through history that our government and basically every other countries government has covered up the truth in order to keep the people from rioting and overthrowing tyranny. As for your last point. Who has addressed these points and the hundreds of others? Who has addressed the thousands of scientists who state the believe it was brought down by demolition? Who has addressed the explosive material found at the site? No one. We simply want answers and instead are giving the cold shoulder and told it's not any of our business. I don't know what country you live in but here in America if you have anything against the government you are called an extremist. We're in an authoritarian system currently, which means the government is in full control, NOT the people, which is what America was founded upon. "Fine, the US government may not be the nicest bunch of people but there are a lot of evil people out there in other countries and they are hell bent on killing as many innocent people as they can." Yes, that is truly sad. But is it Americas (taxpayers) duty to take care of the worlds problems? Innocent people are being killed all over the globe, why are we not invading their countries without legally declaring war (as we did with Iraq). Maybe it's because there isn't anything to gain from destroying the middle east and rebuilding them with policies that are more acceptable to richer countries such as ours and the EU.Should we risk our men and women, money and futures, freedom and much more to serve the agenda makers? Better yet, is any of this legally constitutional? NO! Sadly, the majority of our government doesn't follow the constitution any longer which gives the obvious reason as to why our country is falling. That and the fact they central banks were allowed to run our country, exactly what the founders warned of.
WTC 7 was hit by a lot of debris when WTC 1 and 2 fell and it was severely damage, also when it fell it split in 2 with most of the building falling one way buy a good chunk falling the opposite way. These buildings, as most office buildings in America had transformers and other high voltage electrical equipment. There are a lot of things in buildings which can blow up due to fire. A collapsing building also makes a lot of nose. When a building pancakes the air pressure blows out windows in the floors below.[/QUOTE] I have not looked into all these scientists but I do know that when constructing the conspiracy theory a lot of people were either misquoted or thier statemants taken out of context. Ex: Assistant Fire Commissioner: "I thought . . . before . . . No. 2 came down, that I saw low-level flashes. . . . I . . . saw a flash flash flash . . . [at] the lower level of the building. You know like when they . . . blow up a building. . . ?†But if you read on... "I don't know if that means anything. I mean, I equate it to the building cowing down and pushing things down, it could have been electrical explosions, it could have been whatever." This is a quote taken out of context. Now the WHOLE QUOTE without the taking it out of context... I know I was with an officer from Ladder 146, a Lieutenant Evangelista, who ultimately called me up a couple of days later just to find out how I was. We both for whatever reason -- again, I don't know how valid this is with everything that was going on at that particular point in time, but for some reason I thought that when I looked in the direction of the Trade Center before it came down, before No. 2 came down, that I saw low-leve] flashes. In my conversation with Lieutenant Evangelista, never mentioning this to him, he questioned me and asked me if I saw low-level flashes in front of the building, and I agreed with him because I thought -- at that time I didn't know what it was. I mean, it could have been as a result of the building collapsing, things exploding, but I saw a flash flash flash and then it looked like the building came down. There is no evidence of a conspiracy but look at the big picture of how this could have been organized, impossible. On a side not the tallest building ever brought down by demolition was J.L. Hudson’s in Detroit, Michigan, at 439 ft. (26 stories). WTC7 was 42 stories and WTC 1 and 2 were 110 stories. It took 24 days with 12 people doing nothing but loading explosives to prep the Hudson's building.
Again, you're obviously to interested in the yes or no question of did our government plan 9/11. As I've stated before, it's much deeper than that. I and millions of others simply want answers to our questions and we are being denied. You pretend to be so sure that our government would never intentionally try to hurt our country. Whether it's from policies that affect our country through terrorists attacks or financial disasters, it's FACT that some people in our government knew where those policies were taking us and others (your average congressman who is stuck in the left/right paradigm) actually believes unconstitutional policies are fine if they party leader or president gives support. We as a people have become so dependent on the government, leaders and "experts" that we no longer even attempt to form conclusions ourselves. If the teacher says it, the textbook states it, your president says so then automatically it's right and we should stop thinking and go along...sadly this is how the majority of people in our nation now live. Part of the reason why we are no longer a country full of individuals, we're heading towards a more soviet style, collectivist type of nation. Nonetheless, you will continue thinking what your way and I will continue my way. I'm much more interested in actual topics that can bring about change to our country such as shutting down the federal reserve (central banking system) and the countless unconstitutional laws and treaties that have been passed to destroy our liberties (patriot act for example) and means of production (nafta/gatts treaty for example).
The OP's poll is "Was 9/11 an 'inside job'?", it is a yes or no question. I never said that the US government would never intentionally try to hurt it's country and I don't pretend to know the answer to that. (I'm not American), I'm just saying that the conspiracy theory is impossible.
Yes, I know what the poll is. The question can be taken many ways, as in did the governement intentionally destroy the buildings by force...did americas policies build hate towards our country empire, tyrannical system?..and so on.. All of these can be defined as an inside job. Just because a US Air Force pilot didn't fly by and shoot 50 missiles into the building doesn't mean it could have been done by another less noticeable force such as policies or the creation of culture by fear (terror, terror, terror 24/7 by the US media and administration). What seems impossible to one man can be possible to another. When it comes to someone ruling over your life, you should ALWAYS question and never completely give blind trust because your neighbor is.
So Bush gets into power in January 2001 and calls in one of his advisors; Bush: I want to invade the middle east, what can we do. Advisor: Blow something up and make it look like terrorists. Bush: It's gotta be something big. Advisor: How about the World Trade center, they already tried it once. Bush: Yeah but it didn't work, we need the building to fall and make it look like terrorists. Advisor: Let's fly a plane into it. Bush: What if it doesn't bring it down? Advisor: We'll load the building with explosives and bring it down after the plane hits. Bush: Awesome, will one building be enough. Advisor: Nah, let's bring them both down. Bush: I like your thinking, let's also bring down WTC 7 for the hell of it. Advisor: We can't fly a plane into it. Bush: We'll just blow it up and blame it on debris. Advisor: Cool, hey let's hit the Pentagon with a missle and say it was a plane. Bush: I like the way you think. Advisor: We still need something to cap it off, it might not be enough, let's crash something in the middle of nowhere and say it was another plane. Bush: Perfect, let's start recruiting. Advisor: How do we keep everyone quiet? Bush: The world has degenerated, I'm sure everyone we need will go along with it. Advisor: Awesome, when do you want to do this? Bush: Sept. 11, 2001. Advisor: That's less than 9 months, I'll need more time. Bush: I can get someone else to help me kill thousands of our own people. Advisor: I'll get it done. Seriously, how do you think a plan like the theory could have even started let alone actually be brought to fruition?
You must not be reading my replies because I've stated at least 3 times now that an inside job could be several things, not just a plan to blow up a building. Think policies, if our country is making policies such as building an empire, joining in unconstitutional wars, having our military in over 700 bases in roughly 150 countries, etc... all of this creates blow-back towards our country. Some in our government know this and continue policies for financial power and because they are given the money freely by a central banking system who openly supports going to illegal wars (because it helps them financially). Anyways, you're obviously uninformed and lack true understanding of previous history. I applaud your attempt to have a debate but you lack in that area as well by stating the same points over and over. You're not looking at the big picture, rather focusing on the small details and claiming that an advantage to your argument. Lastly, responding to your question about how something such as this could be brought into action. The story you explained is highly doubtful to have happened, that is your own conspiracy as to what I believe happened. Sure, some believe it went something like that, but those who actually look at facts, history and how the world has been ran up until this point...we understand that this isn't about our government openly recruiting terrorists to destroy a few buildings. Although our government did supply terrorists with weapons and they were in turn used against us. Good luck mate