Was 9/11 an 'inside job'?

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Was 9/11 an 'inside job'?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. Corwin

    Corwin Well-Known Member

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    #261
    So, you admit right here that you do not understand what you are talking about. Instead, you are flagrantly pushing a dishonest video that is intended to manipulate people's emotions. isn't that right? You don't understand the issues, you are just mindlessly parroting what others have said.

    I've been an Engineer for 20 years and never has anyone ever successfully pushed a scientific point of view with a video presentation. Math does not lend itself to self-promotion. Show me your numbers, show me your figures. you can't, because you are completely ignorant as to the issues.

    And I'm still waiting for your answer - you wrote "there wasn't enough weight to collapse the entire building" Tell me how much weight is required. Tell me. Go ahead - tell me! You don't need a video to give me a one-number answer, do you?

    Here's a video you'll enjoy:

    Penn & Teller - 9/11 Conspiracy Theories
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcrF346sS_I

    Also read the book "Debunking 9/11 Myths - Why Conspiracy Theories Can't Stand Up to the Facts" by Popular Mechanics.

    Physics is a very cold science. It can't be bribed, and it can't be bullshitted. The reason why the 9/11 conspiracy nuts are going absolutely nowhere is that they absolutely do not have the Physics on their side. Absolutely not. Physics is a cold and unfeeling convincer. It cannot lie, it cannot cheat. It is as clear and open as the whole outdoors.

    Absolutely none of the conspiracy nuts have Physics on their side. Your video has no Physics, because it is afraid of Physics.

    Eric, why do you want the terrorists to win?
     
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    #262
    No. That would be impossible without someone with clearance giving them enough access for a long enough period of time to actually do that.
    [video=youtube;Jlxw9TZ_0Cc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jlxw9TZ_0Cc&feature=player_embedded[/video]
    http://www.theworldsprophecy.com/manhatten-demolition-truck-drives-by-during-wtc7/
    On a side note, you may soon no longer express your views without worrying about retribution from your government.

    US may strip extremists of citizenship


    So physicists and scientists cannot be bribed? ic. I have to remember that next time I wonder about climategate and why BO received a Nobel Peace Prize so quickly.

    So you like Penn and Teller?

    What do you think about this video of theirs?

    [video=youtube;8RV46fsmx6E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RV46fsmx6E&feature=related[/video]

    And how dare you accuse someone of being a terrorist supporter for questioning 9/11?
     
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  3. eric8476

    eric8476 Active Member

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    #263
    as an engineer like you are could a building fall at free fall speed from a plane hitting or from debris of a collapse building?

    where did you that conclusion that i want the terrorists to win?

    this is no pass for terrorist.
     
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  4. Corwin

    Corwin Well-Known Member

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    #264
    Eric, I'm still waiting for your answer - you wrote "there wasn't enough weight to collapse the entire building" Tell me how much weight is required. Tell me. Go ahead - tell me!
     
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    eric8476 Active Member

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    i don't have any numbers for you about the a building collapse from weight. do you think a palne has enough weight to bring down a building at free fall speed?

    seems like your not giving any credit to the engineers and arcitects that built the buildings.
     
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  6. Corwin

    Corwin Well-Known Member

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    #266
    I'll wait. you must have some facts to back up your statement that "there wasn't enough weight to collapse the entire building", right?

    And no fair you trying to change the subject and in case you haven't noticed I won't let you. I'm waiting on your answer. You either give me a figure, or admit that you made it up.

    Understood?
     
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    #267

    http://letsrollforums.com/9-11-explosive-truth-t530.html



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    Let's see if Corwin can drop his tough talk and play with the big boys.
     
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  8. eric8476

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    thanks blogmaster, there is your infomation corwin
     
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    #269
    i made an observation that the planes were not heavy enough to bring down the building.

    i don't have any numbers for you. it was suprising that the buildings fell a free fall speed.
     
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    #270
    We'll get to the numbers. First let's see if others will actually form a debate.
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #271
    I think the bit blogmaster provided with two firemen speculating as to the nature of the collapse is all the rock solid proof anyone needs to know it was an inside job and the building was brought down by demolitions. Seriously. Irrefutable. Who can argue with it!
     
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  12. Blogmaster

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    #272
    No, it's not. But it's just a part that I have pasted in here since there is a limit to how much I can add into a post. The article is on the link I've provided on top and those who want to get deeper into it after claiming an engineering degree can now do so and examine what is claimed to be consistent with the official story.

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    But for those of you not interested in this kind of stuff and simply hoping that self proclaimed knowledge is sufficient enough to end a debate surrounding a poll the majority has indicated as a trend supporting my claim that the majority of the people in the world wants answers, I will also keep it simple and suggest that some of you
    do you own little tests with Jenga:

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  13. eric8476

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    #274
    Actually that's another lie you bought into, the buildings did not fall at free fall speed and has been proven by timing, check the popular mechanics article, also check the video and you can see pieces of large debris falling faster than the building, are they falling faster than free fall speed? Quit buying into lies.

    And no shit planes weren't heavy enough, that's some smarts you got there, it was actually the weight of the floors above pushing down on supports that were being weakened by heat, eventually the support could not hold the load placed on them.

    Debate what? A lie and a bunch of nonsense?
     
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    #275
    It was not AT free fall speed but very close. So can you show me another building that has ever collapsed? Without being a controlled demolition? I can find you some videos. Just wondering how much you have actually done on your own to satisfy a potential curiosity in regards to whether or not what we have seen makes actual sense when using the official version to explain it.


    [video=youtube;Atbrn4k55lA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Atbrn4k55lA&feature=player_embedded[/video]

    So while Roman is looking for a good video to compare to the fall of the first two towers, someone else may hopefully help me find something similar to what has happened to wtc7 which died of natural causes.

    I do not see any sign of larger pieces of debris and the official version is that fires caused this one. No controlled demo. I'm wondering why people cannot admits doubts regardless as to what their overall opinion might be. Is it that the herd needs to be protected or simply that people are afraid of what else could be associated with such an event?
     
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    #276

    Thanks for the laugh but I don't need Jenga, I saw what happened with my own two eyes. Every asshole is welcome to their own opinion, but other than you who gives a shit what a bunch of fucking trolls and intellectual cretins have to say?
     
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    #277
    You're getting better browney. 2 sentence in one post. You're starting to get wise in your own age.

    So enlighten us to the physics of demolition. Would love to see someone like you disputing something other than the blatantly obvious.

    Sorry if Jenga is still too complex for you, it's as far down as I could go for those who are not interested in looking at something other than what their favorite TV channels allow them to examine.
     
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    #278
    Re freefall speed: http://www.debunking911.com/freefall.htm

    Here's a video that clearly shows what I was talking about:

    [video=youtube;XEDujhl2OsQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEDujhl2OsQ[/video]
    As for wondering why people cannot admits doubts regardless as to what their overall opinion might be: The conspiracy theory is based on lies and twisting facts that are all easily proven wrong. All that's being done is a bunch of shit is being flung against a wall in the hopes that some will stick. Logistically a conspirancy that had our government orgagnizing it as a big picture is impossible, you are a part of a herd being led, but what makes it worse is you are being led by BS.
     
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    #279
    Of course. You visit only websites which supposedly explain things but leave out all of the important parts which indicate additional help in the collapse. I tell you what: Find me just 1 that explains WTC7.

    And your premonition in regards to the big picture being impossible, how much longer do you want to play the game of continuing to block everything not aligning with the official version because it "simply cannot be"?
     
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