I see so in support of your business you are allowed to post the pros of ownership And yet I, who experienced the negatives first hand...cannot??? You speak out the side of your face then.... I am an American with the freedom of speech or in this case text.... till its pried from my dead hands.... I will post as I feel the need. Nothing personal
Agreed!!!!! No it is dedicared...with Hostgator.com hsnetwork thank you for the advice ...I will look as I want to keep the site..it does very nice for something so new. Peace
Why have you moved off topic and missed every single point about my post? You cant even respond to any of the questions I put to you and not once did I say you couldent reply - just that you seem to ramble with totally unstructured arguments. Theres no need to bring patriotism into it but I guess it must just be a defense mechanism when you have nothing better to back yourself up.
I havent the topic is a warning for proxy site buyers.... You came here and chasitzed me so I put it right back on you. The thread is still on topic.... You added in the off topic countertveiwpoints... We call this debate where I come from The patriotism part is to validate my point of view I do not see where you feel the right to tell me what I can and cannot post.... your whining about me cutting into your ability to sell these site is nothing but what it appears to be.....hyperbole If you love proxy sites so much .....start an opposing thread titled "I love proxy sites" And I wont even post ......
Reseller is a shared account, the only thing thtas not shared is a Dedicated Server, and to some extent a VPS.
You call it debate but you are just putting forward a load of rhetorical and meaningless questions? I have to say you have to be pretty special to put together this sentence, "You added in the off topic counterviewpoints", please tell me the logic behind it? How does the country you live in validate your point when I never said anything along the lines of "You cannot reply". I see you have grabbed another point out of thin air, where have stated that its "cutting into my ability to sell these sites"? I regularly create new proxy websites, I will occasionally put them up for sale and I usually achieve a reasonable price on them. I cant see this thread but being anything beneficial to me so far
I've been with softlayer for almost 6 months now running almost exclusively proxies, without a hitch. If it is truly YOUR dedicated server, and YOU are paying for bandwidth, there is zero reason your hosting provider should care. It is when you are sharing that same server with other websites (semi-dedicated, shared, VPS, reseller, or the thousands of other names it goes by) that you are going to run into problems.
I don't recommend LT for a proxy. They suspended my whole server and shut it down just because some lunatic sent them a spam email suspecting I was running a phishing site. Besides that they have bandwidth caps and overage fees of 50 cents a gig so for proxies you should get unlimited unless you enjoy sitting on the edge of your seat checking your MRTG every spare minute.
dunno why some people here are attacking the topic starter the guy did a mistake not reading the web host TOS and he just wants to warn us and learn from his experience if we know everything then why are we here ? he did his part and he really deserves a " Thank You"
yes, I agree that he needs a thanks for mentioning this issue. It could be useful for me anyway Is there proxy scripts that dont use so much cpu or bandwith ?
Well I am intelligent enough to know I am on a dedicated server. Price point of $XXX.XX tells me that. I have 45 other websites and the proxy site crashed the server twice. When I wrote the host they explained why my server was offline and reminded me the TOS forbids running a proxy site...they did not tell me they would delete my account. But I cannot have 45 sites off line to support 1.... I dont need to sit here and banter back and forth...I just came to present my point of view.....nothing more...nothing less.. Ba7ebahaaa & Chowbow Thank you for your support... I hope is saves someone else from losing money they cannot afford.....
As others have stated, this was your own damn fault. Sure there are lots of TOS we see every day; however, there are a few TOS that one MUST read. One TOS that must be read is that of one's hosting provider and this should be done BEFORE setting up an account with a hosting provider. It is nothing short of stupid to not know what one is allowed to do with one's web hosting account. SAY WHAT!!!!!! This is a load garbage information. I am no fan of proxy servers, because they cause problems for forums like these who try to ban bad users; however, this comment seems to be completely unfounded. Based on what logic would there be ANY laws that the federal government could or would use to "clamp down" on proxy servers? What overriding interest would the government have in taking down these sites and how would such actions survive challenges under the First Amendment? Let me be very clear at least in the U.S. and other "free" countries there is nothing inherently illegal about proxy servers. The only concern would relate to copyright law IF the proxy site owner placed their own ads on other people's webpages. The only reason web hosting firms don't allow proxy sites is because they have a propensity to overload web servers. Ya, don't be a blooming idiot and buy a proxy site without reading your TOS. For professing to be such an "expert" on web related matters, this was a colossal self inflicted problem.
I'm the one that sold the proxy in question to Sem-Advance. I received a very accusing PM implying that I had tricked him and many others into buying proxy sites because I knew that *someone* (hosts in general, government...who knows) suddenly has a problem with proxy sites. To be clear: many hosts do not allow proxy sites on shared resources; they are resource heavy sites. This is not a seller or developers problem. Hosts must legally display a ToS, and there is a reason for that. Boring? Sure. But your business might depend on it. My two cents. I hope everything works out for you Sem-Advance.
Awww did I hurt your feelings somewhere?? Ken I give not one ounce of care as to what you have to say and to your ignorant ridiculing remarks.... Lets back up and think suppose I had the hosting account before the proxy site?? dumb ass comment you made there..... No this wasnt a colossal self inflicted problem....kind of minor and at most an inconvenience..... Now a boneheaded mistake is to build ones business by relying soley on a single search engine and then whining in a public forum how they cannot survive a $5,000.00 loss Learn better money management skills...people live on much less..... Ohh and I tried once to help you....now I am done trying... I see no need for us to communicate further.. Have a better day...
I'd like to point out to Sem-Advance that a few posts up, you claimed your right as an American to freedom of speech. A few posts before that though, you claimed your government was 'clamping down' on proxies. Proxy sites are perfectly legal. They are a means to freedom of speech and information, and anonymity. They are sometimes abused, but every service ever offered for free throughout the history of time has had the potential to be abused, and more often then not, is. I really just want to reassure everyone that there is no 'clamping down' on proxy sites. They are resource heavy, some hosts don't like that, end of story. Be sure to check the FBI's ToS though
See you make me out to be the bad guy ...I love it.... Well Chris I did not tell anyone publicly or privately whom I bought the site from... But I sense your concern for your business as well as the other fellow here.... Would have been nice and somewhat fair had you been kind enough to advise me to check my hostings TOS before sealing the deal... But thats one on me.... remember theres good karma and bad karma..... Peace I was just thinking Chris we could let the payment service decide which of us is right.....Game?
it's not really his fault, you know, so good karma will probably follow him. and what the heck's the big deal? Just get a host that accepts proxies and put that site in that host. Problem solved.