WTF? Am i really reading this? There is no "War On Islam",its a war on terror.Unfortunatly there are a minority of muslims that are terrorists,the other 99% are cool people. I would also like to point out to joelviztech and anthonycea that all they do is post crap or hateful storys and incite trouble. I would advise the DP mods to ban them (I think by the way they talk and they way they respond to eachothers post,it could be the same person)
In my experience, the athiests I've met are people who assume that their intellect is a gift to the planet. They believe that they're smarter than those who have faith;that they're more in tune with the workings of the world. Of course, any faith has an inherent us-right vs you-wrong attitude (there's no escaping it when different faiths exist and people must choose which they believe is correct), but with athiests, they look down on those with faith. Prime example, Buddhists don't protest the term "under God" in the Pledge of Alligiance even though they don't have a "God," yet there are arrogant high schoolers who won't even stand up for the pledge because of that phrase.
In my experience Christians and Mormons are people who assume that their faith is a gift to the planet. They [Christians and mormons] believe they're smarter than those who don't have faith, that they know there is a god... Lets try this again... do you actually believe Christians and Mormons don't look down on those WITHOUT faith? Anything you possibly stereotype (falsely at that) about athiests... I can easily do the same about any religion. In fact I do believe it's the religous people who come to my door and harrass me, wanting me to believe exactly what they believe... not the athiests.... When I went an saw the Davinci Code... it was religous people outside harrassing me about it... not athiests
Mormons are the minority. Christians who look down on people without faith are the minority. Those who come to your door are a minority. You know the difference between fundamentalists and the mainstream. I may be mistaken in saying that the general attitude of athiesm is arrogance, but in my experience, that isn't the case.
Hey, wait. I need to tell you that: Mormons ARE Christians Please: Put us in the same category. We do not believe we are better than anybody else. We do not look down on those without faith. We just believe they are in need of knowledge about the gospel. I do believe that our faith, as I am Mormon, is a gift to our planet; correct. We do not think that those that reject us are lesser than us. We have 14,000,000 members of our church. A minority? Yes, but looking at the larger picture, not as much as others. Please know we ARE Christians. We believe in a Christ and a God (2 different people). YOU, my friend, are falsely stereotyping Mormons. (For future reference, we are more correctly called members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.) You must know that anybody that harrasses you at your door is NOT Mormon. They are of another religion. Our missionaries do not come back if not asked to. They do not put their foot in the door. They do not intrude. They want you to believe, yes, but they can in no way invade you, or force you to, or even TRY to, make you believe.
I know many Christians (of varying faith), and I have family members that are mormon. You're wrong in saying it the way you do. Some may, not all do. No, they just work within the court system to harass people. No shit sherlock. The Davinci Code is a joke to historians, so it doesn't even need normal people to talk it down.
It is not in our teachings. If they do look down on those without faith, it is their own personal problem, and happens very rarely within our religion, I'm sure.
I think it is important here to clarify what the terrorists who attacked on 9/11 goal was. They didn't want to take away your freedom or any of the bullshit spin that the government has tried to put on it. They attacked to "disrupt a tool of control" that we exercise over them; we support the Israeli state (and 50 years ago took away their land to create it). We took some of their holy sites and gave it to the Israelis and have given them massive fiscal and monetary support ever since. I am not saying that we are wrong or they are right (that is an entirely different discussion). However, we should recognize that they are fighting for something they believe in so strongly they are willing to die for it. It is comparable to the Boston Tea Party in that they put their lives on the line to attempt to get their point across. They know they can't win on a battlefield, so they are trying to draw our attention to their plight by showing how much they care. Dictionary definition of terrorism: The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons. Doesn't that sound like the Boston Tea Party, American Revolution and many other wars fought between unequal opponents? Terrorism is NOT an ideology, it is a redefinition of guerrilla warfare tactics. My whole point of starting this thread was to point out that we have declared war on a TACTIC, not an ideology. Read the dictionary definition again. How many Muslims do you know? (one or none?) How many Christians do you know (hundreds)? There is a mixing of races in today's world (which is why governments no longer go to war for that reason, you are correct), but we still go to war for reasons of religion (listen to Bush's speeches and it is explicit in speeches of leaders in the Mideast- see Iran). I am atheist. However, up until 6 years ago I was Christian. I was raised Christian. My father is a pastor and I have a very intimate knowledge of theology. Your final quote is misleading. Yes the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, but take a basic logic class or just think about the problem of evil (google it if you don't know what i'm talking about) for yourself. I am not a Christian because there are several gaping holes in theology and have debated this with many of them and they always end up saying "God is above logic". Alright, fine. But don't try to have an intellectual discussion with me about it. That is why some (not all) atheists look down on Christians.
That statistics might be wrong. In all my life I could see only one muslim who had the right attitude, a good social model. Maybe one in a hundred is good.
Call me dum* or stupi* but here's what I think. I think that the main reason the people that are causing all/any wars is because they complicate a simple problem into a major one, where majority of the population don't want to care about what is happening (they only want to live their own problematic lives, I'm not relating only to the americans but to the whole world). Here are some simple questions: What is the "reall" problem? These terrorists are human too (they're just over-manipulated), what reasons are given to them in order for them to sacrifice the most important thing, their lives? If this isn't a war about religion then why does the press rellease reveal that the terrorist who attack some building was a muslim? Here's how I see things, this war between bush and terrorists is like two brothers fighting. One is bigger and stronger, the other one is smaller but faster. The smaller kid is related as the "black kid" just because he has a darker tan than the bigger kid. So how do you stop 2 kids from fighting? Parents, only if the whole world come together and discipline/educate these two kids, then and only then will this war come to an end.
To some people, their own life is not the most important thing. This is part of the problem. People have different views. If you don't see the world from my point of view, and I have military might, I can apply pressure on you to see things from my point of view (e.g. threats of economic sanctions). If that doesn't work, I can use the media to create propaganda (e.g. you are developing dangerous nuclear weapons which are a threat to the entire world, and you sponser terrorism). I can then use that angle to gather support from others and invade your country. I can then strip it of its natural resources, give the lucrative contracts to my friends (so they can get richer), and try to install a government who will be more likely to see things from my point of view in the future. The politicians may be over-manipulated (and may be the "terrorists" are not). It may be by their father, maybe by those paying for their election campaigns. I am not having saying I agree or disagree with you vahsi000; I am merely provoking thoughts. My opinion is that this "war" is economic. The economic playing field is changing. China and India have massive economies now. The efficiency and infrastructure in these countries is improving all the time. The "West" is trying to protect its future in the world market by any means necessary.
He was my classmate 14 years ago. Later we met in 1999 and friendship grew. His name is Mohammed Ashiq. In 2002, his home was my second home. Though he knew my anti-palestinian attitude he had no qualms about it. In fact on Sept 11 I heard hime yell "What have these morons done!!!" I have been lucky in having good friends around.
the world media has helped US say that muslims are terrorists, but Muslims are not terrorist. If someone comes to your home and starts killing your family members, will you welcome them ? NO, you will certainly use you full power to protect them, and thats what people do in Iraq, Afghanistan and anywhere, and US calls them terrorist, US or Bush ? I guess bush.. In the recent surveys most Europeans consider the United States the biggest threat to global stability, not Iran or Iraq or any Muslims, who is spreading terror ? Iraq or Bush ? And you what Mr. Bush says the opinion by europeans is "Absurd", I think he has lost his mind.. Why dont people see the history, US used Saddam and they had family terms and business partnerships, they used Saddam against Iran, they used Afghanistan against Russia, Bush still has business partnerships with Binladen Group of Industries.. US is the only country threatening all countries, at the moment Iran, Korea, Iraq, Afghanistan .... now you have to decide who is the real terrorist, the innocent people bieng killed in their home or the ones who are there to kill.. read report here http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/politics/jan-june06/europe_06-21.html http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nationworld/bal-te.bush22jun22,0,7540303.story
Don't ask that question to a blind patriot, they're not capable of putting any real thought into it 7%... maybe I should move to spain! Europe is looking better and better by the minute! Puts things into perspective doesn't it...
They [young angry white males with low IQs] believe they're smarter than those who don't buy into conspiracy theories, that they know there was molten steel...