War analogy strikes nerve in Vietnam

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    HANOI, Vietnam - President Bush touched a nerve among Vietnamese when he invoked the Vietnam War in a speech warning that death and chaos will envelop Iraq if U.S. troops leave too quickly. .................

    "Nobody regrets that the Vietnam War wasn't prolonged except Bush."He said U.S. troops could never have prevailed here. "Does he think the U.S. could have won if they had stayed longer? No way," Trieu said.

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    "Bush sent troops to invade Iraq and created all the problems there," Thang said. If the U.S. withdrew, he said, the violence might escalate in the short term but the situation would eventually stabilize.

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    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070823/ap_on_re_as/vietnam_iraq_bush
     
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  2. davewashere

    davewashere Active Member

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    If only Richard Nixon and LBJ were still around to give Bush advice on foreign policy. Oh well, he can always talk with Kissinger (and he does, by the way).
     
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  3. bbn

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    Bush wanted US troops to stay longer in Nam ..... but without him there.
     
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    Obviously this "Vu Huy Trieu" is an Islamic militant terrorist. ;)
     
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  5. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    http://www.americanthinker.com/2004/07/kerry_the_hero.html
     
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  6. bbn

    bbn Peon

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    I appreciate greatly your patriotism GTech. But I think both wars with Vietnam and Iraq are unpatriotic by nature.

    America lost a lot of people and was responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands in Nam. America is losing a lot in Iraq now too and is responsible for the chaos in Iraq.
    If you are love America you wouldn't want her to be the loser again.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    LOL. Somethings never change. :D
     
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  9. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    I can appreciate that. I believe kerry's actions during Vietnam greatly contributed to the NV's success.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    And we should believe this or care about what you believe because you are an ex-corporal who knows more than the president and the head of NSA, right? :rolleyes:
     
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    If not for the partisan backslap, that might have been your most genuine post of the day.

    Neither Vietnam nor Iraq were authorized by Congress, or the American people. You know, those lousy and outdated "We the People" citizens that make up this country. :rolleyes:

    And why weren't they authorized, but instead hid behind UN resolutions (which some like Ron Paul call illegal)? Because the will of the American people was never behind these wars. Yet our leaders still saw fit to go fight them.

    American citizenry, rule of law and national identity = good
    American leadership = bad
     
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  12. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    Pop quiz time.

    Did kerry vote for authorization to use force against Iraq, or vote against it?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Resolution
    "We, the people" (not We, the people and foreign terrorists), elect members of Congress.
     
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    Why do I even care about Kerry?

    Don't know and have zero interest to look it up.

    I do know that Ron Paul was the sole republican to vote against it, because he felt it was unconstitutional.

    And I'd have to agree that our taxes are not to pay for the enforcement of UN resolutions. Those are not American interests.
     
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    I can think of quite a few people who would regret it, but they're dead. They were slaughtered when we "gave peace a chance" and exited. Just goes to show you that contrary to leftist beliefs, America was not the problem.
    Stabilize....sure... It would stabilize after the fundamentalists killed off every ounce of secularism that could exist.

    That's a bit simplistic don't you think? While I do not support our involvement in the UN, it's very possible that a resolution here or there is in our best interest. And seeing as the US military is THE major military force used UN in most cases, I'd say our tax dollars have been wasted on many things less important that Iraq.
     
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    The answers are simple, they just require courage and personal accountability to put into practice. That's the tough part.
     
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    this is like the degenerate gambler that is just about to turn the corner.
     
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    A true patriot should care for all not just for his party.

    Americans should elect their president based on what good that person would do for all americans.
     
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    Still Bush does make good point about something. Since Vietnam we seem to have redefined the term "peace" to where it just means the US isn't involved. During the "peace" that occurred after the US left Vietnam hundreds of thousands died at the hands of our enemies. Today everyone's talking about peace related to withdrawing from Iraq. Isolationism simply is not the solution to finding peace. Even considering Iraq's current state, was it peaceful living in Saddam's Iraq? Is it peaceful in Iran and other nations where people are being treated so brutally?
     
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    Killing by Americans is peace and is good, killing by other is bad. :rolleyes:

    Too bad the Iraqis people who are killed as the result of this war, can not send a thank you note to Bush for working for peace. :rolleyes:
     
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    Look for the people who make money from those two wars, and you will find the people who are pulling the politicians strings.
    They treat our soldiers and enemy soliders like slaughter cattle to sell goods we don't need for 10 times over a fair price
     
    Valley, Aug 25, 2007 IP