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Want A Website Project Created - Need PHP Coder...

Discussion in 'Programming' started by bad_bob00, Mar 18, 2008.

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    Hi there,

    I've got an idea for a new website but I can't go ahead and create it because I am not skilled in PHP (might need mysql knowledge too, which I don't have).

    I don't think the code will be too complicated, but I'm a bit cautious about giving away the idea of my site.

    How do people normally solve the problem of coders stealing an idea and using it themselves (I'm not saying all coders are like this, but I'm quite sure that someone would :p).

    I would happily pay someone to create the code that I need but am worried that they might just rip-off my idea and then I would be a bit stuck...


    Thanks for any ideas/suggestions :)
     
    bad_bob00, Mar 18, 2008 IP
  2. phinelinda

    phinelinda Well-Known Member

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    1) If you don't trust anyone, chances are you'll never start the project.

    2) Get a coder in the USA where you can sign a non-disclosure agreement, since in most other countries NDAs are non-existent.

    Try rentacoder.com. They are a good site and fully professional.
     
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  3. AstarothSolutions

    AstarothSolutions Peon

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    NDAs are useless anywhere for an idea, they equally exists in many countries but international contract enforcement can be difficult and costly.

    Generally there has to be a realisation that a web development company makes its money by developing not running websites. Our guys are excellent programmers, our sales guys know how to sell our development skills in a B2B environment however ask them any of them on how to promote a brand new social network site and they are no experts.

    Get a contract in place, talk to them first to make sure you are comfortable in dealing with them but ultimately there has to be trust on both sides... you have to trust they dont run off with your idea and they have to trust that you will pay them once the work is done.
     
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    You will have to trust based on the past credentials of the coder. No other way I guess.
     
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    Get a foreign coder. This is a huge portion of GetaFreelancer which is why I like it (im sure its the case with all other outsource sites). They do it for cheap and they dont understand it much so they wouldnt even be able to steal and use your idea even if they wanted.
     
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  6. AstarothSolutions

    AstarothSolutions Peon

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    Ignorance is bliss? I am sorry but I couldnt help but laugh at that one. Do we cost more than a "foreign" coder, certainly, I would be concerned if we didnt, but we can add value to the process. Monkey sees, monkey does is only 30% of the equation, it may come as a surprise to some people but a developer that has been building sites for 10+ years has seen what works and what doesnt.... yes, they may still get it wrong occasionally (dyson and their see through dust collector for example would have been an instant fail by all accepted principles) however the majority of the time they have been their, done that and seen if it flies or crashes and burns.
     
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    immortality Peon

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    Ive hired so many coders that were overseas as well as in the US with years and years of experience. The overseas coders may be hard to understand and talk to but a lot of them can get the job done better than US coders.
     
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    I have project managed both UK and overseas programmers over more years than I care to mention and I have to say that one is not better than the other.... there are good and bad programmers in both.

    What can be a key difference is explaining a business requirement in a language that they understand... whilst in all respect their ability at english is 1000% better than by ability in any foreign language I have seen some very strange things delivered due to things that simply fail to translate properly. Ultimately it has been overcome by using a system architect in the western hemisphere and a developer/ code monkey from india etc but for budget contracts (sub $10k) any savings of an indian developer is lost by the need for US/ UK analyst.

    When you add on top of that the extreme cost and randomness of international contract law enforcement it simply doesnt stack up in most cases unless you are willing to throw the dice and take your chances
     
    AstarothSolutions, Mar 18, 2008 IP