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Vista Sucks! Microsoft can't even give it away

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by rmartish, Dec 30, 2007.

  1. Yankee85

    Yankee85 Peon

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    #661
    You're making a confusion here, like almost everyone who dislike/hate Vista.

    Microsoft is NOT responsable to create drivers for products of another company. They are responsable with just releasing the Vista DDK (Driver Development Kit) which is out for years (for those companies).

    So when you have a driver problem, don't blame Microsoft or Vista for not providing support or full support for other products that they don't control.

    Is like I'm making a software, I offer you an SDK, but you don't write plugins for my software. And when users need those plugins, they blame me. Is it fair?

    Please be realistic, Microsoft doesn't have all the specifications for all the hardware products in the world, so Microsoft can't write good accurate drivers for each and every one of them. But hardware companies SHOULD, because they make those products.

    And when the OS crashes due a BSOD, this is for several reasons:
    - drivers with bugs
    - hardware failure

    Am BSOD is just a protection feature. Is just a function written by Microsoft that starts only when those two problems I mentioned are being triggered.

    You can see some videos about BSOD and it's protective meaning, from Sysinternals.
     
    Yankee85, Apr 8, 2008 IP
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    thecheapsters Peon

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    #662
    i have tried vista but it slow down my speed because its operations are slow thats why its sale is slow
     
    thecheapsters, Apr 8, 2008 IP
  3. deathshadow

    deathshadow Acclaimed Member

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    #663
    Normal software can 'force' them too - I can BSOD Vista or XP with the proper combinations of openGL or directX by leaving the renderer pointing at a texture, then releasing that texture memory - Creates what SHOULD be a protection fault, but because the fault occurs in the renderer instead of the application, it takes down windows. (you can do the same thing with OpenGL under most any OS - often with uglier results than how windows handles it). I actually think this is why some graphics engines err on the side of leaking, because prematurely releasing texture memory can take you to a very BAD place.

    Though - my problems under vista were that the OS was neither doing a BSOD, or a protection fault, or even recognizing that an application was 'not responding' - the applications would lock up after a random amount of time, and I'd have to kill them ALL in turn. No error messages, no indications anything was actually wrong in the OS - apart from that all applications were refusing to accept user input, and were 'frozen' using no CPU, yet not being recognized as having crashed by Vista...
     
    deathshadow, Apr 8, 2008 IP
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    singh.ajit05 Peon

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    #664
    Hi I am using xp with vista theme. and very happy
     
    singh.ajit05, Apr 8, 2008 IP
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    Lurznm Banned

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    #665
    But I want vista I want to play Halo 2, I don't have Xbox :eek:
     
    Lurznm, Apr 8, 2008 IP
  6. rmartish

    rmartish Peon

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    #666
    You mean Halo 3.
     
    rmartish, Apr 8, 2008 IP
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    #667
    No it's halo 2 for vista, trust me search it...:)
    But vista is REALLY bad, crashes frequently, even with recommended system settings. In all reality vista doesn't offer much more than a better look than XP.XP IS MORE STABLE AND MUCH FASTER WHEN USING A STANDARD 1GB RAM
    :mad:
    Microsoft are just trying to make money!
     
    Tobidotman, Apr 8, 2008 IP
  8. Yankee85

    Yankee85 Peon

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    #668
    See my post about crashes. XP more stable than Vista!? In what isolated case? :)
     
    Yankee85, Apr 8, 2008 IP
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    deathshadow Acclaimed Member

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    #669
    Yeah, and Steve Jobs said nobody would actually spend money on a color display.

    You have to remember when statements like these were made, 16-32k were the norm. That's like today saying 80gigs of RAM should be enough for anyone.
     
    deathshadow, Apr 8, 2008 IP
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    blueparukia Well-Known Member

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    #670
    He never actually said that, its just a rumour thats flown around.
     
    blueparukia, Apr 8, 2008 IP
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    #671
    I've had great luck with Vista Basic. Much more stable than pre-SP2 XP. I wouldn't hesitate to buy Vista on a new computer.
     
    Netizen, Apr 8, 2008 IP
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    #672
    Cool :)
    They couldn't sell the vista and now bill announced "windows 7" instead of vista.
     
    BWDOW, Apr 8, 2008 IP
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    rmartish Peon

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    #673
    I think they just gave up on Vista since it's disappointed sales.
     
    rmartish, Apr 9, 2008 IP
  14. Yankee85

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    #674
    just because of users that makes opinions (like "vista sux") based on other's opinions, lol.
     
    Yankee85, Apr 9, 2008 IP
  15. rmartish

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    #675
    rmartish, Apr 15, 2008 IP
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    kks_krishna Active Member

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    #676
    better go for ubuntu. free and cool
     
    kks_krishna, Apr 16, 2008 IP
  17. rmartish

    rmartish Peon

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    #677
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    rmartish, Apr 18, 2008 IP
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    newzone Well-Known Member

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    #678
    XP is better, yes i'm wainting for the final SP3, Vista only looks good
     
    newzone, Apr 18, 2008 IP
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    #679
    which are those?
     
    Yankee85, Apr 18, 2008 IP
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    #680
    For one it's bloated.
     
    rmartish, Apr 19, 2008 IP