Vista Sucks! Microsoft can't even give it away

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by rmartish, Dec 30, 2007.

  1. pharcyded

    pharcyded Peon

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    #221
    And those are the same reps that try to convince you Norton AntiVirus is actually good...
     
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  2. rmartish

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    #222
    Why fix what's not broken. As long as XP does what you need people won't upgrade.
     
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  3. XandroZ

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    #223
    You are totally wrong I have a quad core E 6700 , 4 GB of RAM Corsair, and 3 HDD in RAID Stripping, Geforce 8600 1GB RAM and Vista is not fast enough and half of my applications are not running properly and are vista ready most of them.

    Runtime errors I get a lot of this errors with my applications.

    Also to have a load of 30% procent when you have solitaire open is like joke.
    Windows doesn't know to use all 4 processors , he use one to 90% and don't use the other 3.They dint heard about dual channel, multi channel, multitasking, virtualization.
    It use a lot of memory for superfetch, but superfetch is really shit in my opinion, he doesn't understand my needs.
    Maybe if exit a possibility to stop it.

    The only thing that can be promising, but I didn't tested is the ReadyBoost technology for sticks,pen drives.
     
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  4. CrimsoniteX

    CrimsoniteX Active Member

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    #224
    The problem is you only have 1GB of RAM, you need at least 2, then you will see a significant performance increase. The OS itself take up an average of 700-800 megs, so you are only leaving yourself like 200 megs for applications.

    EDIT: Sorry I thought you were talking about system memory, with that good of a computer you shouldn't be having any trouble at all, are all your drivers installed correctly?
     
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  5. lifco

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    #225
    i myself dont like vista and cant see myself moving over to it anytime soon
     
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  6. ruffnat

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    #226

    That is sad.... if you had that hardware running XP you would be awesome.

    I'm never going to bother running vista.
     
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  7. CrimsoniteX

    CrimsoniteX Active Member

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    #227
    Accept that you would have half the processing speed, as XP doesn't support Quad-Cores.

    Don't let people scare you away from it, it is an inevitable upgrade anyway. The operating system itself is amazing, much more stable than XP. For example, when a particular program is being bitchy, instead of crashing your whole system, using up all your processing power and such, it isolates the problem, and all your system resources are not depleted.

    The problem with Vista is the lack of support from manufacturers and software developers, the OS itself is stable, and an improvement over XP.

    (By the by, 99% of the "horror stories" you hear are people that don't want to do the work the get the OS running the way they like it. Yes people love the "it just works" type of programs, but again this is not Vista's fault)

    *Steps off soapbox :p
     
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  8. technolarity

    technolarity Well-Known Member

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    #228
    Well, this reminds me of my friend

    Source
     
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  9. rmartish

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  10. futhey

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    #230
    Hmm I don't know.

    My experience with vista is that I had a 2Ghz laptop with 512MB of ram running XP that I decided to upgrade. I purchased a 4Ghz Desktop with 2Gb of ram. I figured it should run faster, right?

    Wrong. It came with Vista Home edition. Despite every spec on the system being improved, I couldn't deal with the Performance issues I faced with Vista. I thought, maybe if I disable all of this transparency and visual crap it'd make it better. Wrong again. While I did see a slight improvement, I still couldn't really run a web browser, instant messenger, virus scanner, FTP, Dev-PHP, and cs2 at the same time without slowdown or memory issues.

    Even funnier, Acer includes a desktop widget that's specifically designed to "Automatically free unused system memory". I'll admit, it's helpful, but... (Why do I need it in the first place?) :D

    Surprisingly, in the long run, every Vista system I have encountered has ran better after installing XP Pro on it. I can't attest to the high end Version of vista, but Vista Home definately doesn't appear to be as stable as I wish it could be.

    Then again, XP wasn't really "stable" until SP2. I'm confident that eventually Vista'll improve.
     
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  11. RovingCalypso

    RovingCalypso Well-Known Member

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    #231
    Vista sure has alot of problems. Some of them are

    -Very very, and I mean VERY, slow copying speeds over a network
    -Networking with XP PCs requires another patch for XP.
    -Requires more steps to complete a task as compared to XP
     
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  12. futhey

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    #232
    I was told that Vista also has problems running programs as a service, IE Windows Compatability mode.

    This is required even for some programs designed for XP. I was told by a number of people this accounts for a lot of the memory problem (And that it's not just all those pretty graphics) and that there was an update to fix it. Unfortunately, this update isn't compatable with Vista Home. :(

    Oh well. XP's great.
     
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  13. Valve-Hosting

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    #233
    I run vista x64 on this workstation:

    q6600 G0 stepping
    4gb of Black Dragon ram (800mhz 3-3-3-10)
    x1950 Pro OC

    It runs really fast on mine. I love it, but.....

    I got a copy free with a Celeron D 512mb ram and it was sooo slow, it blue screened after 1 hour and never booted again, from a factory install on a brand new PC.

    I ran it on a 2.2ghz dual core and again it was slow, but,

    Oddly enough I installed it on my GF's laptop (1.2 pentium m, 648mb of ram) and it runs ok for her with aero off.

    I like it, but then only on a powerfull system. XP SP3 is meant to be amazing though, maybe i'll VM it and check it out.
     
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  14. ARonald

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    #234
    I think the sluggishness has got to do with the amount of ram the system has. It seems that 768 to 1GB is minimum with aero and 512Mb doesnt cut it. Has anyone tried the Vista SP1 though?
     
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  15. Valve-Hosting

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    #235
    Yep, had it for a while now, it's great.

    Do you want the MS link?
     
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  16. MFDC

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    #236
    I totally disagree. I have no problems using mine.
     
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  17. cpucandy

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    #237
    I was using Vista 64bit for just about a year and gave up on it and went back to XP. I found that a lot of companies simply don't have 64bit drivers.

    I personally really liked the look and feel of the OS and would have kept it if I didn't have so many issues: Bluetooth Dongle (driver issues), Copying files (very slow), install software for my HP scanner (failed), install Release candidate of Service pack 1 (failed).

    My opinion is Microsoft worked so hard at hardening the operating system, the driver functionality suffered.
     
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  18. Valve-Hosting

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    #238
    @cpucandy

    I only have probs with my x1950pro drivers. They cut out sometimes and the screen goes black, only happened since I updated them to 8.1 though.
     
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  19. chroncile

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    #239
    It could be that everyone just pirates Windows vista because it's too expensive, then they have problems with it like freezing, slow downs, etc...
     
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  20. rmartish

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    #240
    Pirating Vista will not make it slow. It's Vista that is slow.
     
    rmartish, Jan 20, 2008 IP