[Video] Student gets tasered at john kerry speech

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Dude111, Sep 20, 2007.

  1. Village_Idiot

    Village_Idiot Peon

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    #61
    A student would not stop disrupting the speech till police had to remove him, he was resisting so they tazed him, it was not about the questions. The arrest was justified, contrary to liberal belief, public disturbance is not protected under free speech.

    Was the tazing justified? IMO, no, but I can see both sides here. There where seven cops there, they couldn't take one college student? Tazers are classified as non-lethal, but they can kill, is it really worth it? On the other hand, he could have hurt one of the cops, and he was resisting arrest. I would say the legal precedent was there, but it was not a good use of it.

    One way or another, the video is as funny as they come.
     
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  2. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #62
    Its funny in discussions like this, the undercover authoritarian comes out

    its so odd to me, how some people love authority and are comforted by seeing police or whoever beat someone else

    There are many people who look at stuff like that and say they guys spoke out he went over his time so he deserved to be tazered

    And they don't even realize how much of a fascist they are,
     
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  3. darksat

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    #63
    By your argument so, we should be allowed to tazer you, Gtech and everyone else.:D

    Whats really interesting is the fact that you are saying this guy hasnt got the right to protest, or say anything bad about a politician, john kerry to be precise.

    Might it be because fox news has you programmed to defend the actions of all authority.
    Can you say anything against authority, just a test, try it yourself.
    Will it break your programming I wonder?
     
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  4. stOx

    stOx Notable Member

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    #64
    I don't have to resort to reading between the lines for justification. All i have to do is look at what actually happened.

    "reading between the lines" is another way of saying "making it up as you go along".
     
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  5. Toopac

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    #65
    Did you find the bit where the guy said it was a protest yet?:D
     
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  6. Toopac

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    #66
    Where did i say that? he has the right to protest but not there, surely you know that right? i mean have you seen what has happened to everyone else doing the same thing?


    I'n anti-authority not anti-west, that's were i feel your problem is;)
     
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  7. iatbm

    iatbm Prominent Member

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    #67
    Did we watch the same video ?

    So much for great free US people delivering democracy to us around the world.

    I posted in other thread about this and let me do it here again.

    Probably in every European country would such event take place in student debate those officers would be in hospital injured and would think twice before they would act this way against young people JUST ASKING QUESTIONS OR DEBATING ! Like someone said in this thread ... it will be the other way around for american people in the future sadly I will add ... :(
     
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  8. KalvinB

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    #68
    No, he got tasered for resisting arrest. He got arrested for being a public nuissance.

    It takes a real genius to try to spin this into him getting tasered because he tried to ask a question.

    They gave him the alloted time to ask a question that was given to everyone else. He went over it.
    They asked him to stop. He didn't.
    They turned off the mic. He still didn't stop.
    They tried to just move him out peacefully and he started running around like a wild monkey.
    They tried to subdue him with minimal force but he wouldn't quit. So they tased him. And he still didn't know when to quit so they tased him again.

    He brought it on himself and the cops did the right thing. You don't have a right to be a public nuissance.
     
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  9. iatbm

    iatbm Prominent Member

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    #69
    American students are SOFT. That is probably why when they get mature and join army in the adventures around the world they win the battle because of their equipment superiority but because they are SOFT they cannot handle the land afterwards. They should learn from Brits how is this stuff handled.

    That video is the solid proof of how americans became soft. Those fellow students did nothing to prevent those cops from arresting and tasing the guy.

    In every other normal country those cops would be in hospital right now praying for their life ....
    In a free country that event would be debated and those cops would all loose their jobs. I mean 4 or 5 of them to one skinny student who could screw them with only his mouth. On the video there is really no evidence of resisting arrest. If you think so ... well then there is something wrong with your perception....what resisting arrest is....
     
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  10. KalvinB

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    #70
    He was being escorted out of a room he had no right to be in in the first place. It was a paid event. He had no ticket. Despite that they were nice enough give him a chance to speak his peace.

    Instead he went nuts so they tried to nicely escort him out. But he didn't want to leave the easy way so they had to tase him to get him under control.

    Whether you believe the cops put him under arrest or not, they had ample reason to tase him. He was uncontrollable by any other means. You can see in the video they escaleted from a simple tap on the shoulder to taser. Even the taser didn't work very well.

    That is not a sane individual.

    Are you seriously advocating assulting a police officer?

    Quote of the Day:
    http://media.www.dailycollegian.com...Controversy.After.Kerry.Lecture-2988891.shtml

    Looking at the video, it was obvious they were trying. The taser was the last to be used after several attempts to get him to leave without using force. Why couldn't they succeed without the taser? Maybe they need bigger cops.
     
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  11. iatbm

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    #71
    KalvinB : you are speaking rational but students should not be rational and allow this thing to happen in front of their eyes. But hey to each his own....
     
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  12. ferret77

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    #72
    I thought it was kind of pussy too, that no one even tried to help him

    I kind of agree with iatbm, I think Americans in general are getting softer

    What I don't understand is why asking off the wall questions is a reason to be silenced in the first place. He asked a couple normal questions , then he went into the tin foil hat area, but even so kerry was going to answer him, so what was the harm?

    If someone asks crazy questions, its better to answer them and tell them why they are crazy, then just demand they be silenced

    We have become so used to scripted sound bite politics, that is not what the founders envisioned do you think?

    Fake scripted debates and bullshit town hall meetings where everyone is a supporter, as much as that guy is clown, what he is doing is not bad.
     
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  13. KalvinB

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    #73
    He was silenced because he went over the time allowed for ANYONE to ask a question. They even gave him extra time that no one else got.

    The mental gymnastics are amazing.
     
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    #74
    Now they are complaining about the other students.... geesh.. didn't you hear the clapping when they started escorting the dork out? It sounds like everyone wanted him to leave so they could have an adult discussion without the cry-baby antics.
     
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