[Video] Student gets tasered at john kerry speech

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  1. proteindude

    proteindude Well-Known Member

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  2. KingofKings

    KingofKings Banned

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    #3
    Old news guys, we already have a thread about this in DP.
     
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    From what I could see and hear on what might very well qualify as the shakiest video I've ever tried to watch, the student wasn't even called on for a question. Even if he was, instead of asking his question, he just started making his own speach. While the tasing might have been a little over the top, the student clearly was asking for trouble, in my opinion.

    Free Speech doesn't give on the right to usurp somebody else's.
     
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  4. TWalker

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    Old news and he was trying to disrupt the event, resisted security and brought it on himself.

    One cool thing is he already has his own tshirt:


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  5. quite

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    those police are such twats.everyone shouldhave their own freedom of speech.
     
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  6. TWalker

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    He who shouts the loudest and longest should not have the most free speech.
     
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  7. Village_Idiot

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    He was disrupting the speech, that is public disturbance, not freedom of speech. He was also resisting arrest. I enjoyed the video, I thought it was rather funny.

    Edit: He became like John Kerry in one way however, his wounds where self-inflicted.
     
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  8. stOx

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    In England stun guns can only be used as an alternative to firearms.
    In america they seem to be used as a punishment for disobedience.
     
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  9. Toopac

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    #10
    When you resist arrest expect force:p
     
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  10. Village_Idiot

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    It was an alternative to punching him, he was resisting arrest.
     
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  11. stOx

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    I could point out that he hadn't actually broken any laws and as such is perfectly within his rights to resist arrest. But instead i'll say that if those cops couldn't restrain some kid without resorting to violence then they shouldn't be cops.

    Read this: “Citizens may resist unlawful arrest to the point of taking an arresting officer's life if necessary.”

    “When a person, being without fault, is in a place where he has a right to be, is violently assaulted, he may, without retreating, repel by force, and if, in the reasonable exercise of his right of self defense, his assailant is killed, he is justified.” Runyan v. State, 57 Ind. 80; Miller v. State, 74 Ind. 1
     
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  12. Section Chief Blevins

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    Yes, you could point that out, but you'd be wrong in doing so. The law you quote here does not mean that you can resist arrest if you're not guilty. It means you can resist arrest if the arrest is not legitimate, such as an invalid warrant, or planted evidence. All that is required for a legitimate arrest in such a scenario is probable cause. The cops could argue the student was showing signs of excessive use of amphetamines and appeared disturbed and agitated, posing a potential threat. The student was creating a disturbance, disrupting a public meeting. Was he "breaking the law"? That remains to be seen, but his actions were clearly enough to justify an arrest, so the defunlaw doesn't even come close to applying here.

    Evidently the rest of the audience who cheered as the student was hauled away agreed that the arrest was called for.
     
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  13. stOx

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    #14
    I disagree. Even in fascist america it's still not illegal to ask difficult questions to a politician. And to be honest, Im saddened and disgusted that you would defend such blatant and disgusting abuses of power.

    Are you seriously suggesting that asking a politician difficult questions is an arrestable offence?
     
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    #15
    The guy asked him about the dodgy Skull and Bones cult too which Dubya Bush, Kerry and Old Man Terrorist (H.W) Bush were members of. I think Kerry was nonplussed.
     
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    When is Kerry anything other than nonplussed ;)
     
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    A lot of people will think twice before doing that from now on :mad:
     
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    #18
    Sheese talk about over the top.
     
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    HaHa good point buddy. :)
     
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    Kerry offered to answer the crazy guys questions, he was not nonplussed.

    The student was clearly asking for trouble. He cut in line ahead of someone else, what about their free speech?

    Then again, once they had him on the floor, I saw no reason to taser him.

    Wrong on both sides here, all except for Kerry who was going to answer the questions instead of dodging them.


     
    kaethy, Sep 20, 2007 IP