Video Proof: Jews STOLE Arab Land/Muslim Land/Palestine

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  1. imad

    imad Peon

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    #61
    thats 100% of rabbis

    its decreasing
     
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  2. lightless

    lightless Notable Member

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    #62
    Opinions change quickly, while truths remain the same.
    [Just an observation on life, no other meaning]
     
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  3. Lemon116

    Lemon116 Active Member

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    #63
    Still you cant say Im wrong with the general idea of it.
     
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  4. Lemon116

    Lemon116 Active Member

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    #64
    Now what do you want to prove with that?

    There are always this exception, Im talking about a general idea here...

    Its the idea, not the numbers that important :rolleyes:


    Stop posting useless things people...
     
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  5. adking

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    #65
    Could you please be so kind to give the Christians the percentage of the Jewish rabbis that don't call Jesus a Bastard??
     
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  6. lightless

    lightless Notable Member

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    #66
    Your general idea was right, but your words weren't. 1% makes a huge difference sometimes.
     
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  7. DiscussNow

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    #67
    Land has been stolen back and forth for thousand of years. It is extremely stupid to call any land pre-ww2 someone's as it has been constantly changing.
     
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  8. Lemon116

    Lemon116 Active Member

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    #68
    I could but Im afraid, couse the are a few DP members that cant face a 1% mistake :D

    So Ill say MOST dont...
    And thats a really big most :)
     
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  9. adking

    adking Peon

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    #69
    So YOU please say it loud and clear:
    That YOU believe that Mary a virgin, gave birth to Jesus.
    And that according to YOU, 99% of the Jews BELIEVE that Jesus was born miracleously.
     
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  10. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #70
    Actually I believe you were far more wrong than even others think..

    Religious leaders kill more by words and followers than any single soldier, freedom fighter, terrorist will kill.
     
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  11. Lemon116

    Lemon116 Active Member

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    #71
    Agreed.

    I agree as well.

    Its like saying the US belongs to the indians or europe to rome (roman empire).
     
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  12. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #72
    I'm not saying it's good on either side.

    However #2 has no real destruction, other than homes being demolished.
    I'm on #3 and it's mostly talk/supposed facts, not violent actions.
     
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  13. Lemon116

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    #73

    I (lemon116) believe that Mary a virgin, gave birth to Jesus.

    I cant talk for somebody else...
     
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    #74
    In the ancient times no one really "owned" any land. If you could drive away it's occupants and claim it as your own and defend it, you "owned" the land for all people cared.
     
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  15. Lemon116

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    #75
    Maybe, but the effect of religion in the Israeli army is far less than in any other muslim terror organization.

    Since terrorist organization rely mostly (uh..I wanted to say 100% but Im afraid) on religion while countries mostly on foreign policy.
     
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  16. adking

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    #76
    So what do you have to say about your Talmud:

    Let us examine further some of these anti-Christ Talmud passages:

    Gittin 57a. Says Jesus is in hell, being boiled in "hot excrement."

    Sanhedrin 43a. Says Jesus ("Yeshu" and in Soncino footnote #6, Yeshu "the Nazarene") was executed because he practiced sorcery: "It is taught that on the eve of Passover Jesus was hung, and forty days before this the proclamation was made: Jesus is to be stoned to death because he has practiced sorcery and has lured the people to idolatry...He was an enticer and of such thou shalt not pity or condone."

    Kallah 51a."The elders were once sitting in the gate when two young lads passed by; one covered his head and the other uncovered his head. Of him who uncovered his head Rabbi Eliezer remarked that he is a bastard. Rabbi Joshua remarked that he is the son of a niddah (a child conceived during a woman's menstrual period). Rabbi Akiba said that he is both a bastard and a son of a niddah.

    "They said, 'What induced you to contradict the opinion of your colleagues?' He replied, "I will prove it concerning him." He went to the lad's mother and found her sitting in the market selling beans.

    "He said to her, 'My daughter, if you will answer the question I will put to you, I will bring you to the world to come.' (eternal life). She said to him, 'Swear it to me.'

    "Rabbi Akiba, taking the oath with his lips but annulling it in his heart, said to her, 'What is the status of your son?' She replied, 'When I entered the bridal chamber I was niddah (menstruating) and my husband kept away from me; but my best man had intercourse with me and this son was born to me.' Consequently the child was both a bastard and the son of a niddah.

    "It was declared, '..Blessed be the God of Israel Who Revealed His Secret to Rabbi Akiba..."

    In addition to the theme that God rewards clever liars, the preceding Talmud discussion is actually about Jesus Christ (the bastard boy who "uncovered his head" and was conceived in the filth of menstruation). The boy's adulterous mother in this Talmud story is the mother of Christ, Blessed Mary (called Miriam and sometimes, Miriam the hairdresser, in the Talmud).

    "The Editio Princeps of the complete Code of Talmudic Law, Maimonides' Mishneh Torah -- replete not only with the most offensive precepts against all Gentiles but also with explicit attacks on Christianity and on Jesus (after whose name the author adds piously, 'May the name of the wicked perish')... --Dr. Israel Shahak, Jewish History, Jewish Religion, p. 21.

    "The Talmud contains a few explicit references to Jesus...These references are certainly not complimentary...There seems little doubt that the account of the execution of Jesus on the eve of Passover does refer to the Christian Jesus...The passage in which Jesus' punishment in hell is described also seems to refer to the Christian Jesus. It is a piece of anti-Christian polemic dating from the post-70 CE period..." --Hyam Maccoby, Judaism on Trial, pp. 26-27.

    "According to the Talmud, Jesus was executed by a proper rabbinical court for idolatry, inciting other Jews to idolatry, and contempt of rabbinical authority. All classical Jewish sources which mention his execution are quite happy to take responsibility for it; in the talmudic account the Romans are not even mentioned.

    "The more popular accounts--which were nevertheless taken quite seriously--such as the notorious Toldot Yeshu are even worse, for in addition to the above crimes they accuse him of witchcraft. The very name 'Jesus' was for Jews a symbol of all that is abominable and this popular tradition still persists...

    "The Hebrew form of the name Jesus--Yeshu--was interpreted as an acronym for the curse, 'may his name and memory be wiped out,' which is used as an extreme form of abuse. In fact, anti-zionist Orthodox Jews (such as Neturey Qarta) sometimes refer to Herzl as 'Herzl Jesus' and I have found in religious zionist writings expressions such as "Nasser Jesus" and more recently 'Arafat Jesus." --Dr. Israel Shahak, Jewish History, Jewish Religion, pp. 97- 98, 118.

    Further on the website of the Orthodox Jewish Hasidic Lubavitch group--one of the largest in the world--we find the following statement, complete with Talmudic citations:

    "The Talmud (Babylonian edition) records other sins of 'Jesus the Nazarene':

    1) He and his disciples practiced sorcery and black magic, led Jews astray into idolatry, and were sponsored by foreign, gentile powers for the purpose of subverting Jewish worship (Sanhedrin 43a).

    2) He was sexually immoral, worshipped statues of stone (a brick is mentioned), was cut off from the Jewish people for his wickedness, and refused to repent (Sanhedrin 107b; Sotah 47a).

    3) He learned witchcraft in Egypt and, to perform miracles, used procedures that involved cutting his flesh, which is also explicitly banned in the Bible (Shabbos 104b).

    End quote from http://www.noahide.com/yeshu.htm (Lubavitch website) June 20, 2000.

    [Note: we have printed and preserved in our files a hard copy of this statement from the Lubavitch"Noah's Covenant Website," as it appeared on their website at http://www.noahide.com on June 20, 2000, in the event that denials are later issued and the statement itself suppressed].
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #77
    I would disagree, the entire point of Israel is the 'Jewish State'

    It does not matter one bit, religious leaders install beliefs which can 'even if they do not call for death and destruction' give the beliefs to their followers to carry out in the future.
     
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    #78
    I didnt read it all but
    Israel doesnt use Talmud as its guide for its actions... its 2008, not 1908


     
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  19. adking

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    #79
    Trying to change the topic!!
    Acting like a coward..
    Answer the Question:
    What do you have to say about anti-christ remarks in the Talmud.
    Or perhaps you as a "Jew" believe that the "Talmud" is FAKE??
     
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  20. Lemon116

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    #80
    The problem is:

    In the muslim world religion is almost everyting, people listen to their religious gurus.

    In Israel the are far less people who believe in religion.

    So the impact of religious leaders in Israel is many times less than in any other muslim country/organization.
     
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