Very Interesting. Engine running with Water. My cousin told me that his cousin has ma

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  1. latehorn

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    Basically it's water being split and the turned back into water. There's no way that can be done with any energy gains. If that would be the case, it would revolutionize the world of physics.

    However, an interesting idea. Would like to see updates on this development. There was once another man with a similar idea.. he ended up in inventing the fridge instead.
     
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    #22
    How.... did he wind up.... inventing the fridge?

    I know it works by using multiple magnetron's, where one heats, but more than one cools but... I'm honestly not sure how one could get the fridge out of trying to create perpetual energy.
     
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    #23
    Yes. I get what you are saying here and I agree. There is something that is not being reported, but if you have a byproduct (airborne such as an exhaust). Let's say you add something to water (a chemical) that splits the water into H and O's or some combination. A byproduct would be created (exhaust), whereas that lost energy, giving it to to the new "perfect" water molecule (or whatever its called). When this is burned and loses that energy, it becomes water again.

    Assuming there is a chemical reaction here, there is a byproduct that has lost the energy gained. What is that, and how much byproduct is created for each molecule of this substance it creates?

    Nuclear fission creates very little byproduct for the amount of energy it actually creates, so the concept is not really unique.
     
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  4. latehorn

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    #24
    Sorry, not the fridge, it was development of the refrigerator. He(Baltzar von Platen) tried to create a machine that turned cold air into warm air.

    Is it fair to say that a machine runs on water as fuel if you need another fuel(a chemical)? You can always say, well the gasoline/hydrogen need oxygen, but we don't have to re-fuel any oxygen, it's in the air(water vapor is also there).
     
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    Probably not. But everything needs pre-treatment before its truly usable, right? We can't stick pure oil in our cars and run them, either. It needs to be refined and processed. Same thing. I'm just keeping my mind open here, a little bit. Because its interesting. Even if it is a pipe dream ;)
     
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    maybe they can just make more fuel efficient cars while we invent all these new wonderful things.
    here in ny i see people drive their big suv it just gets me mad
     
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    Well, you don't need to insert any chemical in order to separate gasoline from raw oil. Also, in this case, the separation should be done in the engine, right?

    However, usually when creating hydrogen(if it's not taken from a resource), it's created from water, and it's created with electricity, but it can also be created from hydrogen generating bacterium's. With these methods, it takes more energy to produce hydrogen than you can get from it, I think that it's a similar concept.

    Well, it's interesting for sure. We'll see if this leads into something.
     
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