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vBulletin 4.0 - have they become greedy????

Discussion in 'vBulletin' started by giorgioarmani, Oct 13, 2009.

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    http://www.vbulletin.com/

    Indefinite software license
    Includes Forums, Blogs, and CMS modules
    Free updates for this version
    Discounts for next version upgrades
    Free forum and ticket support
    Total value: $495

    Discounted: $235 per license?????????????????????? :mad::mad::mad:

    Years of support.... Numerous licenses and now this?

    Is it a joke?
     
    giorgioarmani, Oct 13, 2009 IP
  2. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    Very cheap for what you get if you ask me. The $40/year price for upgrades/support goes away. vBulletin 3.x was released over 5 years ago, so that's $200 in annual support/upgrade fees that you don't have to pay any more for one. So when you factor that in, it costs what, $35?

    The $235 price is for the suite, which includes a lot of other stuff (blogs, CMS, trouble ticketing, etc.) If you just want the forum software, it's $195 and *still* included indefinite support and upgrades until 5.x comes out.

    Not only that the price for the entire suite is only $130 if you have an active 3.x license (I already purchased it for here).

    To be honest, I think it should be more expensive.
     
    digitalpoint, Oct 13, 2009 IP
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    gsv13 Well-Known Member

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    So will we see blog and cms in DP when vb 4.0 comes out?
     
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  4. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    At some point... probably not right away though. We have ~300 custom plug-ins I'm gonna need to redo for 4.0 and probably another 100 or so templates that have been modified. So will take some time to get through everything and redo them.
     
    digitalpoint, Oct 13, 2009 IP
  5. Stroh

    Stroh Notable Member

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    Damn they want to charge me $250 to "upgrade" to 4.0 on my expired license.

    May as well buy another license I guess and just use the old one on "something".
     
    Stroh, Oct 14, 2009 IP
  6. giorgioarmani

    giorgioarmani Well-Known Member

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    Oh ok, perhaps I misread something. If I have a license it only costs $35 to upgrade to the latest vBulletin 4.0 version?
     
    giorgioarmani, Oct 14, 2009 IP
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    Stroh Notable Member

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    right now, no it costs $250 for inactive / expired or $130 for active 3.8 licenses.

    Better off at the moment buying a new license and keeping the old one for a small project of sorts.
     
    Stroh, Oct 14, 2009 IP
  8. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    Also, if your existing license is active, you get 4.0 free (just the forum, not the suite) for free for the life of your existing license.
     
    digitalpoint, Oct 14, 2009 IP
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    atcweb Peon

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    but it will cost to " modify " the " old " mods , skins , ect ...
     
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    izzatz13 Active Member

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    no wonder nulled scripts always get their crowds
     
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  11. Qryztufre

    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    Am I reading something wrong?

    Looks like it's $285 for the suite package, or just $195 for just the forum.
     
    Qryztufre, Oct 14, 2009 IP
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    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    And that's only for new licenses. Existing 3.x licenses can upgrade to 4.x Suite for $130.
     
    digitalpoint, Oct 14, 2009 IP
  13. InFloW

    InFloW Peon

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    Yeah because there isn't a thing called inflation and a cost to develop software. Their costs go up the prices will probably have to go up to compensate for that fact. They add a lot of new features there probably should be an additional price to reflect that.
     
    InFloW, Oct 14, 2009 IP
  14. Stroh

    Stroh Notable Member

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    Updated, seems they did drop the price of the renewals for expired people. Not by much but it helps. $210 for now, have to wait a few days for them to fix their billing system.
     
    Stroh, Oct 14, 2009 IP
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    hiteshb Well-Known Member

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    they are charging 235$ for new customer and 250$ for existing customer. How it is fair ?

    Most of trouble is with those who purchase license recently (before pre-sale) and those who have blog (lifetime update).

    They are been charged twice.
     
    hiteshb, Oct 15, 2009 IP
  16. Mr.Sh2aWa

    Mr.Sh2aWa Active Member

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    I'm Very Happy Because i got them with bulk pricing :D :D

    I think that it should be more expensive
     
    Mr.Sh2aWa, Oct 15, 2009 IP
  17. MixedBag

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    Yeah I don't know if I'll be updating, does seem a bit excessive. Also very unfair that upgrades for expired licenses are more than new licenses but this will be fixed in a few days.
    I was planning to renew my license ($60) then buy the suite ($130) but they've said inactive licenses will be able to get it for $190 anyway. Still might just renew and then pay the $130 though because there still isn't an actual release date yet is there?

    I have to say, it is tempting to turn to warez though. While I own several sites now, for those getting starting, it is a bit much and, I only have one vbulletin forum (well only one forum) which belongs to my first website which I started because of personal interests. After 100 users I upgraded it to VB from summit else but it took me, about a year at least through advertising/adsense, just to make back that money. And even now, it'll take me a few months to get enough to afford the $190 :|. Unless I dip into my house money (bills food, etc).
     
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    Agent_Smith Well-Known Member

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    My 3.8 license expires in January. After reading their site I assume i get the vB 4 license for free with updates. The only thing i am unsure about is what happens in January when my license expires?
     
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    Brandon Sheley Illustrious Member

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    If you want to get more 4.0 updates, than you'll need to renew your license ;)
     
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    Agent_Smith Well-Known Member

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    And how much does that cost?
     
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