VBSeo vs Zoints

You can read, can't you? Have you noticed the title of this thread?

 

The way I see it, is if the ACTUAL Creators of the software (vBulletin) Dislike vBSEO and don't back it up... why do you think members should? I mean heck! if I developed software, I'd know WHAT is good for it and WHAT isn't! the vB staff has even looked at it and consider vBSEO not very effective. Sure the Dev team at vB hasn't gone into TOO many details of the SEO enhancements. However, I think if a developer of the software doesn't believe vBSEO would help, then I'd take their word for it.. after all, they DID make vBulletin.

 

vBulletin support staff have a policy of requesting custom modifications or plugins to be un-installed or disabled prior to them beginning their troubleshooting.

Since there are now thousands of vBSEO users they are undoubtably seeing more instances of users who are requesting support due to vBulletin problems, who are also using vBSEO.

We maintain full compatibility with vBulletin. The thread relates specifically to staff commenting on higher instances of users with vBSEO.

In fact, several staff members at vbulletin.org are also vBSEO users.

 

I hate to be the anti VB guy here, but.... has anyone made anything for IPB yet?? I think zoints was considering but last I had checked nothing has been released.

 

There is something being developed by someone at the moment. However, without a plugin system - SEO for IPB using mod_rewrite is a much more difficult process.

 

True, but MANY of the several staff members at vborg are also using Cheaper SEO services such as Zoints

 

I don't think an interpretation of the thread is necessary. The thread speaks for itself. And is quite to the point.

 

uh, yes actually I can.. how about you ?

the title is about zoints or vbseo for vBulletin SEO...

so with your argument, you can google "zoints seo" or "vbseo" ??

you amaze me every time, when I see the crap you say

uh,, the point of that post was what again ?

vBulletin doesn't support any hacks, and especially paid hacks.

with the argument that is vBulletin doesn't support it, then it must not be good, could be said for all and any hack made for vb )

 

Unfortunately you are probably correct.

mod_rewrite and dynamic to static URL rewriting is very complex for simple content management environments. With something as complex as the vBulletin structure, it is very difficult to provide a complete solution with a part-time effort. These freebie hacks with mod_rewrite components are not yet suitable for wide scale use. Hopefully current users are programmers who have SEO and plugin development expertise who can put sufficient hours into their continual development and improvement.

vBulletin users who want to take advantage of static URLs, should choose the professional, complete, fully supported solution.

 

nice advertising post

I'm sure when people click that link and see $149, they will come back and post "you have to be crazy" or they will pirate it.

No one will pay that much for something that's not 100% proven. Technically vBSEO MAY... or MAYNOT enhance your forum. There is no assurance. If people are rich and want to fork over $149 for something that MIGHT help them... then go ahead... otherwise, it's a waste of money.

Also, some servers don't use Zend. Therefore who ever buys it for $149 wasted their money and has no way to use vBSEO.

 

Both Zend and IonCube options are available. We also provide ISAPI_Rewrite compatibility for IIS users.

 

not all servers have Zend or IonCube, many hosting companies stay away from them, just because of space and higher resources/CPU usage.

 

Actually - our statistics seem to indicate you are incorrect. Most servers have either Zend or ionCube support.

Keep in mind that ionCube runtime loaders can also be uploaded by the user.

 

Could be true, but I doubt many users know much about ioncube or how to configure/use it.

Btw where are your stats?

 

We include ionCube loaders that are uploaded with our installation files. We also provide a test script to determine Zend/IonCube compatibility prior to installation.

However - we do not leave these tasks up to our customers. A support ticket is all that is required to get assistance with anything related to ionCube or Zend.

FYI With thousands of customers it is not common for a server to support neither Zend or IonCube. There have been instances where it was not supported and the client was on a shared server in which the webhost refused to make the upgrade. I would recall less than 5 instances.

 

Since you never provided the stats as I mentioned above.. do you have any stats that show how ioncube or zend increases Server' CPU usage? I believe vB dev. team themselves, posted about how it increased server CPU usuage.

On top of that, I don't think many people would pay $149 for vBSEO, when they can buy their 3rd etc.. vBulletin licence's for the same price. vBulletin already comes with a suffecient SEO, as the vB staff mentioned.

 

Wading past the latest infomercial

1. What exactly is so "complex" about mod-rewrite?

2. vBulletin does not NEED mod_rewrite

And that's just what it is. These guys are liked used car salesman.

 

use zoints and if you think its so helpful then buy VBSEO

 

Why then we buy vBSEO when we find/finding Zoint (FREE) "so" helpful...

 

There is no reason.

But jward or one of his shills will be along soon enough with another sales pitch trying to tell you why you should, mark my words.