Definitely VBSEO.... My forum used to have 11-12 members online daily...........Now see : - Total members that have visited the forum in the last 24 hours: 151 My forum has grown a lot after VBSEO. I saw some difference after changing from SMF to VB and saw more members coming online daily.... and more posts. But after 2 months of using VB when I took vbseo in november, I didn't initially saw the difference, but little bit, but that little bit only brought some more members who in turn made new threads, more discussions and I can say that after March...... It grew insanely! My stats were 45,000 posts in March and 2000 near members. Look now - Threads: 4,952, Posts: 101,899, Members: 4,973 URL - Teen Help All my future forums will be VB and VBSEO!