Submit your site to relevant directories such as the Open Directory Project and Yahoo!, as well as to other industry-specific expert sites. I would say that is just good advice to people wanting to promote their site but doesn't imply any favouritism to a listing in DMOZ or any recommendation of any particular directory. The existence of many listed sites in DMOZ that have zero PR is evidence that if there is any value it is at most highly marginal. DMOZ doesn't offer any kind of service to webmasters, they aren't customers, and many editors get highly irritated by webmasters who berate them for not providing a service they have never offered. It is DMOZ's own fault to a large extent by not making this very clear in the submission instructions. Editors also get very annoyed about the extremely high percentage of pure dross - affiliate sites, plagiarised content, no content just ads, mirrors, etc. that webmasters submit and get angry when they are not listed. What the vast majority are not annoyed by are webmasters who submit sites they have obviously taken a lot of effort over, contain lots of original material, are submitted to the correct category and follow the guidelines on title and description. But it is true that there are a small number of editors who appear to be distainful of all webmasters and simply do not understand why they want to promote their sites by submitting to DMOZ.
You mean sites like this: www(.)jezebelentertainment(.)com in DMOZ That site must have at least taken 5 minutes to do, it is shocking how much time people spend to make these quality sites.
I get you. The partial flaw in the plan is that it also promotes every other site on the page, which are presumably includes many of the competitors to your own.
And wouldn't be funny if his competitor is an editor who deletes his site after that page gets some good back links.
brizzie, So what. What is wrong in promoting a competitor. The internet is about the distribution of information. Not about competitors hating each other. Promote yourself and promote others. A community spirit. Like they have at DMOZ. If you think that promoting a competitor is wrong, you are not an SEO.
gworld, If a webmaster relied just on the one link from DMOZ, he would indeed be at the mercy of an unethical editor such as you have indicated. I hope you were not refering to yourself, I was getting quite fond of seeing you around, It seems that it is what you do best. Sort of getting around, all over the place.
gworld, <gworld>And wouldn't be funny if his competitor is an editor who deletes his site after that page gets some good back links</gworld> Amazing comment gworld. Truly amazing. Trust in the DMOZ directory slips away by the hour.
minstrel, No offence so please don't take it personal. But I keep noticing your opinionated comments quite a lot. You seem to think you know everything about the internet and you have no hesitation to impose your thoughts on others. Do you have an involuntary urge, or a reaction from a mind boggling toxic chemical substance to move around threads and make others know of your presence? Don't take it seriously, just curious as to the repetitive habit one can't help notice in you.
I have seen some value. I have one client site where they created the site and didn't really do anything with it. When I first put it up I added it into a few directories, one was DMOZ. It's now been a year later. Almost no trafic from any of the search engines. The day Dmoz listed the site it started getting traffic. Nothing huge but it is getting 10 to 20 visits a day when before it got 0. It is also getting occational directory refferals from DMOZ clones. There has been no other single directory that has raised the visits this much on any of my sites. As directories goes, DMOZ seems to provide the most benifite.
Given I spent over 3 years adding about 8000 new sites to DMOZ I believe I understand that concept. Unfortunately I don't think most webmasters would get it. Is it actually getting DMOZ referrals?
I am sorry. But a site that receives 10-20 visitors on a good day is not a representative sample. Maybe these visitors are bots, some legit, some rogues, haha.
Pretty steady at at least a couple a day. Once again, not a lot of traffic, but more than I have recieved from any other directory. Add that to refferals from clone directories, and an increase in Google searches, it is worth the effort to get listed.
Yeah, you're the guy who claims 10-20 visitors a day in that other thread. I appreciate your input, but think you're missing the big picture. Take an average site, listed in DMOZ, with 1200 visitors per day, that I own. Here's a month's worth of data: 1 Google Search 61.2% 39190 2 Google Search (International) 32.3% 20697 3 Yahoo Search 3.4% 2157 4 Search MSN 1.1% 707 5 Yahoo Search (International) 0.5% 308 6 MSN (International) 0.4% 267 7 MSN 0.4% 233 8 Dogpile 0.2% 156 9 Netscape 0.2% 147 10 AOL Search 0.1% 52 11 AltaVista.com 0.1% 44 12 Lycos (International) 0.0% 32 13 Ask Jeeves 0.0% 28 14 Excite.com 0.0% 17 15 Searchalot 0.0% 10 16 InfoSpace 0.0% 6 17 WebCrawler 0.0% 4 18 DMOZ 0.0% 4 19 About 0.0% 2 20 Fast Search 0.0% 1 21 Sapo 0.0% 1 WOWOOOWOOOOWWW!!! FOUR, I kid you not, 4 DMOZ referrals! That link ROCKS!!! I am doing cartwheels, climbing the curtains, and swinging from the chandeliers!
Not true. I know how to read stats, and I know what the bots look like. This is actually a very good representative. The increase coinsiding with the add to DMOZ is a little to coincidental to be discounted. No other changes happen to the site for the last year. Before you start to snub 10-20 visits a day. Consider what your trafic would be if every link to your site produced the same number, most of my sites have hundreds of links. I would love to have each link give me the same increase. My client will not be retiring because of that one link. I'm only pointing out that as directory links go DMOZ produced more results than the others.
Well, if you're comparing directory links with DMOZ... even I get more referrals from DMOZ in a month, than I get from all the other directory links put together, since my site's been online. These are comparisons made on a submolecular scale.
That is because you have only one link, my 11 deeplinks brings me massive 100 visits a month, I'll be able to buy lollypop by the end of the year! "You know, these guys are pretty cool for a bunch of mimes." They've stopped painting there faces , I'm more In Extremo fan.