VA Shooter Appears to Have Been Muslim

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by KalvinB, Apr 17, 2007.

  1. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #61
    Nah, that was probably me. I had beans today. :eek:
     
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  2. Jackuul

    Jackuul Well-Known Member

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    #62
    God damn, I just LOVE being called a liberal. Wowie wow wow wow - as Christopher Walken would exclaim in this situation - how did my position on the logic of this situation get me declared a liberal when I support the right to own and bare arms, when I support the ban on needless contrived reasoning for abortions and when I support lower taxes and less government intervention in my life! I support Mass Sterilization and a Eugenics program! Why golly gee whiz mayor Griffith, I just can't figure out what Opie was doing back there - why, it looks like him and Otis were hitting the brown bag again and got themselves in a dill of a pickle - why - they have a thing coming if they can get by Deputy Fife!

    Well, all of your hotshot big city accusations of me being a liberal is like calling George W. Bush a gift of god to humanity and a super genius. He's not. He's more of a liberal than I ever will be - he's spending all our damn money on a war that he created in a country that was more likely to clone a sheep than to create a nuclear weapon of mass destruction. They had mustard gas - oh boo-hoo, as if they had a delivery system? Anthrax? Hasn't anyone heard of antibiotics?

    Back to the point of the topic - I see this as in no way the cause of a religion and in fact it does not matter he was a sociopath at the end and he manipulated and socially engineered everything to work how it did, from the bomb threats to the note.

    I highly doubt he even believed in a god, more or less practiced a religion.
     
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  3. KalvinB

    KalvinB Peon

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    #63
    How do you plan on treating someone if you don't know all the influences in their life?

    What's the point of going to a psychologist if they're not interested in what makes you tick?

    What do you think made this guy so upset at the alledged immorality of others that he went on a killing spree?
     
    KalvinB, Apr 17, 2007 IP
  4. Jackuul

    Jackuul Well-Known Member

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    #64
    Psychoanalyst should be used then - I assume. Hire people to find out what makes them tick tock tick tock like the kookoo clock
     
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  5. KalvinB

    KalvinB Peon

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    #65
    How can you just toss out religion when trying to figure out what makes someone tick?

    If someone professing to be a Christian did something like this I'd want to know what church they went to and what the pastor was telling people. I'd want to know where they got this idea that the immorality of others is grounds for killing them.

    Terrorists do not primarily target people who personally wronged them. They target "sinners." It's a completely different mindset.

    If you want to correct someone's thinking you have to know why they're thinking what they're thinking. Where did he get the idea that it was his job to punish "sinners?"

    There is a huge difference between Columbine where the kids shot other kids out of revenge for mistreatment and VA where the motive was perceived immorality. Nobody laid a hand on this kid. He wasn't bullied. People tried to be nice to him.

    If I were to blame a movie for this, I'd blame Dogma.
     
    KalvinB, Apr 17, 2007 IP
  6. Jackuul

    Jackuul Well-Known Member

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    #66
    Because there's no proof he is a certain religion, and he probably put it in his letter as a tool - and I haven't even seen any of this confirmed. This is all useless speculation.

    How can you just include religion when trying to figure out what makes someone who is a sociopath without empathy or any confirmed reports tick?
     
    Jackuul, Apr 17, 2007 IP
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    mistermix Active Member

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    #67
    This is a caveman thread.
     
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  8. Jackuul

    Jackuul Well-Known Member

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    #68
    Watch it, you don't want to get sued by Uggggg - he knows the libel laws.
     
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  9. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #69
    Or may be some drug dealer like you sold him some bad drugs that screwed his brain. :rolleyes:
     
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    astire Peon

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    #70
    lol.......
    I was thinking to ask few "friends" here on the forum that how disappointed they are for missing the great opportunity to bash Islam and Mulsims because the killer is not Muslim or atleast not confirmed as muslim yet.

    But My friends are not lazy. they can bring something out of nothing to meet their objective.
    Great try KalvinB, ......:D
    Hint for Gtech, ly2 and associates: try to find the blade with he did his under shave. It might be made of China and China is neighbour of Pakistan and Pakistan have majority of Muslims, so there is every liklihood that some germs of a Muslim passed to that blade and then that blade had make a cut on that korean's body and ultimately he might be infected with that muslim germ and......

    :D
     
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    ly2 Notable Member

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    #71
    I never sold those kind of drugs :D
     
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    ablaye Well-Known Member

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  13. Jackuul

    Jackuul Well-Known Member

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    #73
    And you're obviously just as biased.
     
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    LeoSeo Well-Known Member

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    #74
    Seems there are irreleveant causes than religion. Why do these guys suddenly stop posting? Some sorry manner maybe?
     
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    adiace Active Member

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    #75
    Wait until you see all the threads ablaye has started in the P&R forum. (just do a search for all threads started by him in the P&R)
     
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  16. KalvinB

    KalvinB Peon

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    #76
    For awhile I had "Positive Muslim News" in my sig.

    Thank you, come again.

    Ablaye and Astire are our friendly neighborhood Jew haters.

    On topic, all I posted was facts and I've been examing the facts. Maybe my conclusions are wrong but I havn't asserted any definite conclusions.

    Paul Harvey made a comment that in the shooter's writtings he was bitching about religion. Maybe he was an atheist. I don't know what was exactly said about religion that he didn't like. There's little else to be said until all the documents are released in their entirety.

    It seems odd that he'd justify his rampage by claiming the students were all immoral but yet complains about religion.
     
    KalvinB, Apr 18, 2007 IP
  17. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #77
    Gee, I wonder what "ismail" represented? Seems to be nothing but bad no matter whatever form it takes.
     
    GTech, Apr 18, 2007 IP
  18. Jackuul

    Jackuul Well-Known Member

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    #78
    Could be the Narrator from Moby Dick - and he may have thought he was Captain Ahab.
     
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  19. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #79
    Very well could be, Jack :)
     
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    ablaye Well-Known Member

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    #80
    Here is the comment that this KalvinB posted on another thread:

    This idiot posts some much crap here about muslims. What a hypocrite, he is.
     
    ablaye, Apr 18, 2007 IP