uVme is this a scam or what!

Discussion in 'Affiliate Programs' started by eboker23, Oct 10, 2007.

  1. #1
    Hello

    I have joined the new craze that is uVme and I have been nothing but impressed with everything about this affiliate/onlin biz.
    The results I have been able to accomplish is quite fantastic so I have started to get a little more serious and started to push my promotion about the biz a little more.
    Recently I have read around a few sites and they state uVme is a scam, One guy even looked into it very throughly and crunched the numbers and said that they way uVme is set up and your outlay it would be nearly impossible for anyone except a select few at the top to make a profit frm this biz.
    It is starting to be abit dodgy I only just found out that there is a fairly large out lay to become a active member Why? If we are recruiting associates and players for nothing why the hell should we pay them to promote there product.
    I think they are going to rip of all the associates they will be the only one outlaying money.
    Also be aware if uVme is classed as gambling it will be banned in many many countries so therefore greatly reducing the global reach.
    Another thing what are we promoting, Where are the games? Are they any good? What types of games can be played? Finally when is the release date the havent told us.
    I hope this isnt a scam because if it is legite it can be huge, But I am starting to get worried I am still a member of uVme and will still promote it but I want more answers. Does anybody know more than me?
    Pre-launch is what they call it but they only talk about how to get more members and not how to grow your own skill gaming business I want to be able to promote and optimize my skill game site now ready for the so called release date.
    I have put alot of time into uVme and I am just telling other members to be wary and dont get too sucked in, Because it reaks of scam.

    Tip: Use Yahoo Keyword Tool and no one is searching for Skill Games I dont think the market is anywhere near as big as what they claim ( I heard 99% percent of the money thay state is from games like war craft etc)

    Can someone prove me wrong I hope so, Because I like this biz but it seems to be hyped up to fail in the usual mlm way 12-18 months after the money drops away.
     
    eboker23, Oct 10, 2007 IP
  2. Allanon24

    Allanon24 Peon

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    Hi Eboker!

    Don't believe everything You hear. I live in Hungary and there is more than 7000 associates here. An old and popular online portal wrote a very negative review about UVME. Guess what came to light? Thay want to start a similar network in the near future! Negative marketing campaigns occur regularly on the net. For example even I can put together a website with tons of negativness about anything. It would be ready in one day. But the fact reamins. VWD is here since 2002 and it pays and grows!

    Who is Your upline? Did You speak with him about those concerns?

    Yes there will be a one time fee which is a bit bigger but You should see already that there are tons of services You get for that as an associate.
    You have to pay because they made it available to You. They built the system and put great amount of work in it. This will at least sort out the serious business builders. Anyone can join a free affiliate program but if You pay $200 one time fee, that is surely a lot more serious!

    Well sure! There is a small chance that this won't work out. Yes! There is risk involved! But there is no opportunity without the risk!

    UVME is NOT classed as gambling. Uvme will offer SKILL GAMES.

    From Wikipedia:
    "A game of skill is a game where the outcome is determined mainly by mental and/or physical skill, rather than by pure chance.

    One benefit of games of skill is that they are a means of exploring one's own capabilities. Games encourage the player to look at, understand, and experience things. They teach people lessons about themselves and possibly the world, and allow such insights to be passed on to others."

    I know people who tried out few games on the Evolution day and they were VERY positive about them!

    The date of the official launch has not been announced YET. So do not believe any kind of speculation anywhere about it!

    Potential? Look at BWIN here: BWIN SKILL GAMES .

    There are 205,840 people online right now on pogo.com .

    Have You done some market research? Wordtracker? The keyword play game is on the top! It is the first as per Wordtracker's e-mail to me yesterday.

    Hope this helps.

    If You have more questions or concerns please do not hesitate to ask me!

    Best Wishes,
    Allanon
     
    Allanon24, Oct 10, 2007 IP
  3. eboker23

    eboker23 Guest

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    Hey thanks for the reply,

    I guess your right, There is alot more positives to uVme than I have heard negatives you always get your skeptics.

    I believe this system can work. I guess I will have to make it work.

    Thanks

    Anyone who wants to know more about UVme and becoming an associate
    go to - http://www.witguides.com/pop_up.html
     
    eboker23, Oct 10, 2007 IP
  4. Junije

    Junije Well-Known Member

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    uVme system could work but i doubt the people behind it are capable of such things....
     
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  5. Allanon24

    Allanon24 Peon

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    Hi Junije!

    Although I do not know what kinds of "things" You talk about exactly, I always say... Everyone is free to believe what he wants to believe.

    Anyway The E-Lottery Syndicate System from VWD is pretty impressive and it works since 2002!

    But as I said You are free to believe what You want to believe, and act like that...

    Anyway I hope You will succeed and make your goals reality!

    "A human being is only interesting if he's in contact with himself. I learned you have to trust yourself, be what you are, and do what you ought to do the way you should do it. You have got to discover you, what you do, and trust it."

    Barbra Streisand


    Best Wishes,
    Allanon
     
    Allanon24, Oct 10, 2007 IP
  6. eboker23

    eboker23 Guest

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    I argree with you skill games are a vastly growing market everyday now I see it getting bigger and after reading more I can see the potential is huge the main thing I love about this venture is
    - It will be fun
    - Massive growth
    - Potentail income is huge
    - And the company at the forefront of this boom has set up the best possible business so that everyone can earn a decent paycheck (Up to %75).
    - Best of all it is Global no country limits unlike %99.9 of other programs so your marketing is hundred percent effective.

    This is the most exciting thing on the internet today, And it's not to late to start your own business bacause it is still in pre-release.

    You know the cleche " When something sounds to good to be true it usually is" well I have lived by that motto with internet markering but every once inwhile comes something special thats sounds to good but it actually isnt.

    This is going to change lives some people are calling the 10,000 millionaires club because they believe this unique venture will create a string of internet savvy millioniares and I agree with them.

    But this is marketing, if you want to read more about this online oppurunity and you think you can build a business no matter how big or small then i welcome you to read more, watch the movie or download there numerous brochures.

    Click below to read more......................

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    eboker23, Oct 14, 2007 IP
  7. PRC

    PRC Well-Known Member

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    I'm looking forward to the launch of uVme, it should be a good business to be a part of.
     
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  8. vwdforum

    vwdforum Well-Known Member

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    I run a forum for uvme if anyone would like to have a look.
     
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  9. Bannaz

    Bannaz Active Member

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    Interesting reads! thanks
     
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  10. eboker23

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    Hey Guys,

    I dont hink uVme is a scam, I think it is a great concept but in my opinion there is no way alot of people are going to make money from uVme, Im sorry but unless you have a very strong downline then it just aint gunna work because it will not be as popular as you think.
    Here are some pointers feel free to reply.

    *Placing a wager on a game to win more money back is a form of gambling because you can loose your money to win, It dosnt matter what uvme say if the countries who have already banned gambling online ban this (This is a form of gambling) then it will be a huge flop.
    *Many people can play games online free and talk via social network already do you really think there is a huge market for people willing to pay regular money to play these games.
    * Online gaming and social interaction via playstation, xbox and wii are going to be the next huge hit online and do this FREE are people going to pay to play the budget 2D games on uVme.
    *Give us heaps of money and pay us a fairly hire monthly membership and then we will tell you what you get for your money????????
    *A complicated pay plan that dosnt even ad up??
    *Delays,Delays,Delays = More Associates, People are only joining from the hype not what is being offered because no one really knows.
    *Give us more infomation, tell us it id prograssing, and give us a release date.
    *The only people who make money from a monthly membership is your upline.
    You will be paying a premium price to promote a companys product that, seems fair???

    Look there are a heaps of questions note being answered uVme want us to promote there product but give us nothing. I am a associate but I have stopped promoting until it is released, Uvme will make more out there associates than the actual games. I agree with the start up cost to flush out the dreamers but the monthly fee is steep and takes a big slice off your bottm line.
    Online social gaming is going to be huge but uVme wont be they only network there are heaps of big name companys setting themselves up to join the market and how much of the market is uVme going to have I am predicting a very small percentage because 95% percent of associates wont make enough money to cover there monthly membership.

    I think uVme has some potential but everyone is getting blinded by the hype step back have alook and I suggest dont invest to much money because it may hurt in a few months time.
     
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  11. Allanon24

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    Hi Eboker!

    For Your first concern I must post again:
    From Wikipedia:
    "A game of skill is a game where the outcome is determined mainly by mental and/or physical skill, rather than by pure chance.

    One benefit of games of skill is that they are a means of exploring one's own capabilities. Games encourage the player to look at, understand, and experience things. They teach people lessons about themselves and possibly the world, and allow such insights to be passed on to others."

    What are the facts that You base on Your theory that UVME won't be "as popular as You think"?

    For Your second concern:
    Yes thats true. There are tons of free online games! And UVME will be free to join for players as per the support told me. I don't know if the social network will be free but I do not know what kinds of features will it offer too, because there will be probably more than the competition, which would make UVME more valuable. It won't be free to play games, but You can win cash if You win, like at BWIN as I told in my previous posts.

    Please do not misunderstand me but all of the following concerns are based on purely speculation. Tell me how much Will I earn from my downline's monthly membership fees?

    Who are those big players You talk about?

    Have You ever looked into how a pre-launch works? What are the benefits of it and how to do it properly? Have You ever heard of Jeff Walker or Mike Filsame's Butterfly Marketing?

    Yes, there is a chance that UVME won't succeed and that it won't be a good business but NOONE can say this for sure right now! And as I said earlier, every business opportunity holds risk. No exception!

    Well honestly I do not like to argue with people, and if You truly believe in what You've posted, then You are free to do so and I really hope that kinda thinking will take You where You want Your life to be.

    "It's just a ride and we can change it any time we want. It's only a choice. No effort, no work, no job, no savings and money, a choice, right now, between fear and love. The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on your door, buy guns, close yourself off. The eyes of love instead see all of us as one."

    Best Wishes,
    Allanon
     
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  12. redspace

    redspace Peon

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    from my experience any program that use pre-launch as their biz model won't work. they don't have the capital to run a program to start with. so they use affiliate to popularize their program hoping that they would generate interest from venture capital. when reaching certain time frame and they don't get the necessary capital this kind of program will die.

    another example is agloco. do you think it will work? it has been around for almost 1 year now but we haven't heard any success from them. now they are saying that they only promise to pay when their biz become profitable. so what they are saying now is it could take more than 2 or 3 years to succeed. take a look at google. how they become powerhouse today. are they using any affiliate to make their search engine famous? ask them how many capital were they used while building their biz. i believe it is a lot but they go ahead with it because they know it is going to be a good product.

    so if you find any program that is not complete don't bother to join them. let them complete it first so when they start the program you know what you will actually get for your efforts instead of waiting for 1 year yet still in state of confusion. and i believe that same goes to UVME because you don't really know what you will get when joining them. so why wasting our resource and time promoting freely for them.
     
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  13. Allanon24

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    Hi Redspace!

    Please tell me more about Your experiences with actual examples.

    Some questions:
    Because of the failiure of Agloco, UVME will certainly fail too?
    Because of the fail of other programs that used the Pre-Launch method UVME will surely fail?
    Since we are talking about VWD too right now, what kind of impact would it create for the E-Lottery Syndicate members if Len and Tom would scam all UVME members?
    Len and Tom are operating E-Lottery Syndicate since 2002 using MLM. Are they just inexperienced businessman who will surely fail with UVME?

    ANd my belief is: LET PEOPLE DECIDE WHAT THEY WANT TO DO INSTEAD OF TRYING TO TELL THEM!

    Again. Maybe You are right. Maybe UVME will fail. Every single business and investment opportunity has risk involved.

    And again. If You truly believe in Your post Redspace, then I really respect You. I like people who can truly believe in what they are saying, and they are confident, and strong. If this is the case You will surely be successful on the Internet or in anything You will tap into.

    "They can do all because they think they can."

    Best Wishes,
    Allanon
     
    Allanon24, Oct 27, 2007 IP
  14. rudeturk

    rudeturk Well-Known Member

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    Looking at this thread, was like looking at spam bots which visit my forum everyday, they reply to each others threads with long and intresting comments with the same type of begining and ending,

    are you sure you are not trying to promote uvme crap?
     
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    i pre-signed this thing but they were due to get started in the summer, lost the interest in this thing, i really think is more like spam now that other thing else
     
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  16. Allanon24

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    Hi Rudeturk!

    I am Allanon Spam Bot! :-D

    So if I stick up for UVME then it means I am promoting it?

    Hi Lusoricas!

    From who did You hear that UVME's launch was due in summer?

    Allanon
     
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    thsadmin Notable Member

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    Yeah probably all came from the same scamming forum and this is a marketting approach - who better to scam than smart folks at DP ? Or even better - who to try not to scam than the folks at DP ?

    We're smart cookies and we know things to .....
     
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    I too signed up for it. Out of mere curiousity. But it looks like one of those overrated and hyped up launches...

    I mean. Jeez. Look at Agloco. Such hype around it, and have we even seem semi-decent results? Life changing income?

    Not to be a cold shower, but I don't think this will work out the way everyone thinks it will...

    Just my 2cents.
     
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  19. Allanon24

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    Hi ThsAdmin,

    Please tell me why this thread looks like a marketing approach to You?
    And please list the facts why UVME is a scam.

    Hi Prosumer,

    Please answer the questions in one of my posts above.

    Allanon
     
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  20. thsadmin

    thsadmin Notable Member

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    Some of the bad grammar and basic posting skills, post jobs, long and un-readable posts.

    I never said it was a scam ! I was just stating that it appears as though the posts here are scam/spam.
     
    thsadmin, Oct 31, 2007 IP