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useing images that are hosted on other sites

Discussion in 'Copywriting' started by gder01, Aug 20, 2006.

  1. #1
    I go to google images, find some pictures. i copy the images location and then place the picture into my blog. technically I am not hosting this image, the original site is.

    Is this legal? Or was it wishfull thinking:D
     
    gder01, Aug 20, 2006 IP
  2. RRWH

    RRWH Active Member

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    #2
    At the very least it is theft!

    You are putting a link to your image into YOUR site, and there is someone out there hosting the image, and paying for it - theft.

    Be very careful doing this as you have absolutely no control over the image.

    I personally have been known to change an image that is being leeched from my site to the most disgusting pr0n image I can find - and guess whose site that will show up on (and it wont be mine)...
     
    RRWH, Aug 21, 2006 IP
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  3. Mike S.

    Mike S. Well-Known Member

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    #3
    LOL, funniest thing I heard in a good while.

    At the very least, you should get permission from the web owner of the site that the image is hosted on, if it is a corporate site, try to get written permission opposed to an email. Both can be upheld in court, but a written authorization is better legal documentation.
     
    Mike S., Aug 21, 2006 IP
  4. 50plus

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    #4
    Leeching or hotlinking is theft. Not only do you pass off the image as your own - which it is not - but you are also using (ie stealing) the bandwidth of the owner each time your paged is viewed and the image is called from its original location.

    You will find that hardly anybody will allow you to do so.
     
    50plus, Aug 22, 2006 IP
  5. klown

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    #5
    code can be injected into pictures as well.. making them more dangerous to place on your site.. your basically giving somebody else an opportunity to write code directly onto your site..
     
    klown, Aug 22, 2006 IP
  6. LongHaul

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    #6
    What about copying an image from a website, reworking it in Photoshop, then hosting it yourself with a caption mentioning the website address you got it from... but not getting implicit permission? Not the header image from Citibank's website or anything, just an obscure image from an obscure website.

    Think it would be ok?
     
    LongHaul, Aug 22, 2006 IP
  7. klown

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    not really, still considered stealing content. i doubt they would find it though, if you steal an image and rework it i just wouldnt link to their site at all.

    u either ask them for permission or dont tell them anything at all about you doing it
     
    klown, Aug 23, 2006 IP
  8. sanlands

    sanlands Active Member

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    Yeah, there are a lot of simple scripts that'll make any hotlinked image from a server to be some shock image.. e;g goatse
     
    sanlands, Aug 23, 2006 IP
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    You are at the least stealing bandwidth from the person who is hosting the image. Some images are public domain you need to know waht ones are.
     
    kmayen, Aug 25, 2006 IP
  10. LongHaul

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    How about if you do a Google image search, and the same image comes up on 10 different websites. Maybe not technically public domain, but close enough right? ;)
     
    LongHaul, Aug 25, 2006 IP
  11. Lpspider

    Lpspider Well-Known Member

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    hotlinking can be disabled by the owner of the images, if they wish.
     
    Lpspider, Aug 25, 2006 IP
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    #12
    Although it is not likely, you could be sued by the picture owner for using their pictures - even if the picture is scattered over several other websites without the owner's permission. The chances of a lawsuit increase with the successfulness of your site, a little ticking problem waiting to happen.

    Photos in the Public Domain are free to use - this includes most US government and NASA photos, and photos taken before 1923. This is a vast area to find photos. There are also a number of free photo sites such as http://www.sxc.hu/ (Read the terms).

    It is just a little more work to avoid trouble - and to respect the owners of the photos. How would you feel if you found one of your own photos on someone else's website without your permission?

    I thought so.
     
    accentnepal, Aug 29, 2006 IP
  13. Peter Avey

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    #13
    I once posted a image of peoples sun tans, there was a surfer, a bike rider etc..etc.. and a programmer, obviousely the programmer was pure white, i found it very very funny and posted it on a forum.. Then the image got changed to a soopy dog saying im so sad posting this..

    And did i get it ripped out of me yes i did! :p
     
    Peter Avey, Aug 31, 2006 IP
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    Ask yourself why are you looking for loopholes for theft?

    Unless it is crystal clear any IP (intellectual property - photo, story, patent) is in the public domain or your use meets the letter of "Fair Use" (look it up), you must assume, in the case of a photo, it is someone's copyrighted property (in the USA at least).

    As to your question - Associated Press (AP) stories show up on thousands of sites - are those public domain? No, they are syndicated. And I'm sure stolen often too.

    People who hotlink without permission suck. And yes, I deal with this issue all the time. Forums and Myspace are the worst. :mad:
     
    aeronautic.net, Aug 31, 2006 IP
  15. gder01

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    so when you get the disgusting image to get the person back, do you get premission from the pron site?
     
    gder01, Sep 9, 2006 IP
  16. Pat Gael

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    #16
    Agree, one of my clients had such problem, having to work on a mod_rewrite for her to stop such rascals.

    Bandwidth theft has decreased, hotlinking remains tho.

    However instead of stolen pictures, surfers can see a lightweight image inviting them to visit my client's website
     
    Pat Gael, Sep 10, 2006 IP
  17. Angelus

    Angelus Well-Known Member

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    How did you do that? :)

    p.l.u.r.
     
    Angelus, Sep 10, 2006 IP
  18. Pat Gael

    Pat Gael Banned

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    #18
    Add the following to the very top of your .htaccess file:

    
    
    RewriteEngine on
    RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^$
    RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://YOUR_WEBSITE.com/.*$ [NC]
    RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://YOUR_WEBSITE.com$ [NC]
    RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://www.YOUR_WEBSITE.com/.*$ [NC]
    RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://www.YOUR_WEBSITE.com$ [NC]
    
    RewriteRule .*\.(bmp|jpg|jpeg|gif|png|tif)$ /YOUR_DIRECTORY_FOR ALLOWED_IMAGES/your_promo_image.gif [R,L]
    
    Code (markup):
    Upload this .htaccess to the root directory and all the images on your site will be protected.

    However you will need to grant permissions for displaying your promo image and probably others elsewhere, such as banenrs, buttons, your own postings in forums, etc.

    Create YOUR_DIRECTORY_FOR ALLOWED_IMAGES and upload onto this area such allowed images.

    Now create another .htaccess exclusively for this directory, with nothing else except this:

    
    RewriteEngine on
    RewriteRule ^.*$ - 
    
    Code (markup):
    And you are done! :)
     
    Pat Gael, Sep 10, 2006 IP
  19. danielong

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    Great info.. could use it in future
     
    danielong, Sep 16, 2006 IP