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USA, Empire Built On Terror Capitalism and Secret Coups

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by popotalk, May 13, 2011.

  1. Breeze Wood

    Breeze Wood Peon

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    #61
    No such conflict ever existed but in the comical illusions of interventionist seeking unwarranted gains. Only the A-Bomb allowed for the static condition underwhich pseudo-economies were allowed to exist. The resulting economies of Vietnam and China are self directed by their Independence from foreign intervention and more a mixture between either Cap and Com than of either respectively.
    SEMrush
     
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  2. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #62
    Hogwash...
     
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  3. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #63
    I hope that is the garden talking. If you really believe the historians made all this up, you are beyond the possibility of recovery.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_War

    Wake up man.
     
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  4. popotalk

    popotalk Notable Member

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    #64
    Vietnam
    Sandaled Warriors - USA Out of the Country.
    USA - Buying Goods from the Sandaled Warriors.
    Message - We take care of ourselves and just buy our shit.
    Win - Win
     
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  5. Breeze Wood

    Breeze Wood Peon

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    #65

    ......but in the comical illusions of interventionist seeking unwarranted gains.

    1776 and 1917 were economies of manifest destinies evolved through centuries and similarly utilized in national identities.


    O, Capital G when referring religiously to the Garden.
     
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  6. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #66
    Sort of, but you left out a few key elements.

    USSR - Out of existence
    USSR sponsorship of communist regimes - no longer happening
    Communist ideology in Vietnam - all but dead
    Vietnamese middle class/market for American goods - emerging

    I doubt it could have played out differently but one thing seems fairly obvious. The freedom/slavery of capitalism and western values have a popularity and a life of their own, even without boots on the ground. The Taliban realized that a long time ago, which makes their support for attacks against the "great satan" very understandable. Most of the middle east is feeling it right now.
     
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  7. popotalk

    popotalk Notable Member

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    #67
    I was not talking about USSR. Topic for the moment is Vietnam after that you will see more boring posts. We'll take it ONE at a TIME.

    If South Vietnam won the war for the US (which did not happen) US should have sucked all its wealth.
    NO US manipulation/intervention. Just buy the products.
     
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  8. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #68
    How does one talk about the vietnam war without talking about the USSR? Are you at all familiar with the conflict?
     
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    popotalk Notable Member

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    #69
    Are you familiar how it started and how the US lied on it ?
     
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  10. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #70
    That sounds suspiciously like a topic shift to me. What has that to do with trying to leave the USSR out of a discussion of the Vietnam war.
     
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  11. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #71
    You can add or take out anything you want and the simple truth remains that Vietnamese kicked USA´s ass out of Vietnam.
     
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  12. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #72
    That's not how those of us living in the hear and now remember it.

    If it makes you feel better about yourself and your country to interpret reality differently, go for it. Its certainly never stopped you before.
     
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  13. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #73
    Typical Marxist, trying to deal with facts in isolation. For the same reason, you've never figured out that Capitalism does a better job of feeding the poor than your screwed up ideology. All you can think about is, "Somebody is getting rich! Oh No!".

    We bailed out of Vietnam and brought down the USSR, our true adversary, within 20 years. Now we a have McDonalds in Saigon, and Ho Chi Minh's dream is dead. Planting the Golden Arches may not be the same as planting Old Glory, but its pretty damn close.
     
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  14. indyonline

    indyonline Prominent Member

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    #74
    That would be OUT your mouth. Learn English... and I didn't light it until after this post =p
    I'm sure hubpages is really happy about a duplicate copy of the article being out there with the new Panda update and all. Oh wait, Ya, that's probably why they deleted the article... lol
     
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  15. wwws

    wwws Notable Member

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    #75
    Jesus f'n Christ, you sound just like them Muslim extremist with your facts and the need to take credits for everything.

    ...On the other hand, I was going to make a list of Americas breed of dictators and ran into this instead, what a good read it is.

    Americas Friendly Dictators List America breeds this maggots for a reason and only the CIA & Top U.S officials really knows why, we can only speculate;)

    Sing a long folks to the United States of Americas National Anthem

    Oh, say, can you see, by the dawn's early light,
    What so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming?
    Whose broad stripes and bright stars, thro' the perilous fight'
    O'er the ramparts we watched, were so gallantly streaming.
    And the rockets red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
    Gave proof through the night that we killed a lot of babies there.
    Oh, say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave
    O'er the land of the sissy's and the home of the pussies?
     
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  16. indyonline

    indyonline Prominent Member

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    #76
    Are you Another jealous loser from a 3rd world country? We are FAR from sissies and pussies. Come here and say that to somebody walking down the street and see what happens to your punk sissy ass! Get a life and get over it. Not our fault our country is doing better. The jealousy is funny though.
     
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  17. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #77
    LoL. That statement was pretty over the top. Funny though. Even funnier when you think about the truth of it.

    Regarding the rest of your post, I'll leave you to cry in your blanket. We were busily installing dictators while Stalin was murdering millions of people in his own country. We may not have been the perfect choice, but we were, and remain, the obvious choice. If it makes you feel any better, you can replace the name USA, with Canada, UK, France, Japan, or any other modernized country peddling Capitalism.

    /hands wwws a cry towel.
     
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  18. wwws

    wwws Notable Member

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    #78
    Yes I am!

    ...I'm on my way.

    1 and 5 are on the food stamp programs. Americas national debt is at $14 trillions which means each and everyone of you are in debt of $46,000.

    3rd world people most of them never payed taxes, thus the reason why their infractures looks like shit, but look on the bright side, no taxes- no worries (3RD world people are some of the happiest people in the world).

    You might drive a car which in reality that car really belongs to the bank and you're left with some really high interest.
    You might have went to college, but you'll be working for life to pay it off.
    You might be living in a house which you will never really own in life, (banks own it) and are stuck with property tax that never ends.
    To really summarize this, you're a fucking slave to the banks/government and your geared to owe them for life.(haha ha)

    3rd world people have no banks, therefore cannot get loans and are nearly debt free. Governments are scared of them and leaves them alone, most don't even know who the fuck is in their government and don't give a crap, they just want to get laid and breed babies and smoke some stoogies and whatever they can get their hands on, freedom is far greater than the so called, "Land of the pussies".

    You are scared of your Government or have to be involved in the never ending b.s that you're feed with their lies.

    Btw, who is you talking to da phone G?
     
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    wwws Notable Member

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    #79
    You're a Muslim extremist in disguise using the words: Facts, Truth etc,..Heck you're even handing me your towel. (sheesh)
     
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  20. TheMissingLink007

    TheMissingLink007 Peon

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    #80
    people i think are jellous of us why else would they try to pick fights.
     
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