US Supreme Court may deny "right to keep and bear arms"

There are a lot of 'out of control' areas in the US and banning guns form law abbing citizens will only stop them from protecting themselves.

The fact is that you have no right to expect the police to protect you from crime. The courts have ruled that the police are not obligated to even respond to your calls for help, even in life threatening situations!

Public hanging of murders on public gallows will make the crimminals think twice about their actions. Post the videos on mypace and youtube so the crimminals will see that they will be swinging from the gallows with a rope around their neck for murder.

People kill, not guns!

 

I find it quite interesting that all the violent gun crimes and mass murders by gun always seem to take place in NO GUN ZONES.....

Odd, isn't it?

 

Mia: Gun deaths in DC this year are currently around 160 or so equal to the total for all of last year and down maybe 100% from in the past. That could be a function of many things including existing gun restriction laws. Who knows for sure.

It is easy to get guns in Virginia nearby and Maryland. Virginia is notoriously easy.

I can't say that the DC ban on guns works or doesn't. That is why I referenced what the police would say.

The issues on this court case include the 2nd Amendment, the right of local govts to pass their own laws, and the safety rights of citizens.

I have no idea what the overall death by guns rate in urban areas, but the numbers are large, threatening and urban areas should have abilities to better police against these totals. Now how that is done is open to many discussions and experiments.

Urban areas that face the most problems with guns should be allowed and encouraged to fight these crimes in a variety of ways to ascertain how to reduce the murder rates. How they do it is very open. Restricting guns via law is one alternative. There are many others.

 

I understand those wanting to decrease gun violence, however even at it's worst it's a small price to pay for freedom.

I read the 2nd ammendment as not being able to pass any of these laws.

You take guns away from the law obiding citizens, who gets them instead? Who makes money off their sale and if need be even manufacture? The criminals themselves.

Much like drugs, supply and demand.

 

GRIM, the US has tried prohibition before.. It did not work.. I think you are right!

 

There is a word for a country where the people are disarmed and the state has weapons.

Ah yes, it's called tyranny.

 

It seems every country in the world except one is ruled by tyrans

 

Yes, it is nice to live in the US of A..

 

Bogart you make a good point with this post. I was reading a book a few months ago called Confessions of an Economic Hitman by John Perkins, and when he traveled to Saudi Arabia, the cab driver told him he didn't have to worry about securing his brief case, because they will publicly chop off the hand of anyone caught stealing.

You know what, posting videos of people getting executed on TV, YouTube, MySpace, or other places would drive home the point real quick. The problem with this country is that Americans today have become weak. There was a time in our history when public executions where common. But today everyone has become all soft and weak, and look at the country.

 

executing people is for 3rd world shit holes, we are one of the few first world countries that still executes people

we shouldn't be executing anyone

 

The death penalty stops liberals from putting murders back on the street.

Michael Dukakis former presidential candidate is infamous for furloughing convicted murderer Willie Horton. Horton assaulted a man in Maryland, and raped his fiancée, and stole his car

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Horton

 

It's not just liberals who put those back on the streets that should not have been in the first place, who end up killing

http://www.usnews.com/blogs/erbe/2007/10/29/mike-huckabee-and-ethics.html

BTW I am pro death penalty in certain cases, with much more than the standard amount of evidence.

 

I read the article. Mike Huckabee is letting the 'Willie Hortons' free too so that they can rape and kill again.

Just one more argument for you to keep a gun for protection.

 

the death penalty puts innocent people to death at least a smaller percentage of the time, and should be abolished, its archaic and barbaric

 

The problem with the death penalty is, if you're poor or a minority, you die.

If you're rich or Caucasian, you have a pretty good chance of not getting that sentence.

It's not applied evenly, like most of the other laws.

 

It's also something that can not be undone when someone wrongly convicted is sent to die.

I support it for certain crimes, not all murders. Cases such as repeated child molestors, child killers, etc. Depending on the severity of the crime, brutal rapes even.

I however do not support it with crap evidence as put forth in so many cases, video evidence, many eye witnesses, possible confession, etc are the only way I support it.

 

Personally, I don't think any of us have the right to decide who lives and who dies based on morality. It opens the floodgates to a lot of other issues, like who decides and how.

In self defense, to kill can be a natural consequence. But when we have the means to arrest, try and incarcerate, I'm not sure what additional benefit comes from ending the person's life. Revenge is a petty motive, and to save the costs of caring for a prisoner is an inhumane reason to end a life.

 

You know, I can't even believe that someone would actually think we should be more like Saudi Arabia,

 

yeah like cases like this

http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2003/Tulia-TX-35-Pardoned23aug03.htm

probably one of gtech's buds down in texas

 

Worse is having a convicted murderer released and killing again. It's really funny that the same people that are trying to disarm the american public are giving out "get out of jail free cards".

Mexico has gun control and no death penalty and the murder rate is 250% higher compared to the US.

The death penalty is another argument. People need to protect themselves and the right to keep and bear arms is a protect constitutional right.