What is this BS? How can this even be considered at these times. Does this mean the dollar is gonna fall even more down? http://today.reuters.com/news/newsa...247Z_01_N08251666_RTRUKOC_0_US-IRAN-HERSH.xml
I think we all expected this!! I wonder how the US will manage two wars at once? Let's just hope that North Korea doesn't also start it's crap otherwise I think we will have a WW on our hands.
This reminds me of WWII, when, by some cockamamie psychological reading of Hitler, we had a plan to drop millions of leaflets designed to "disturb his mind" and thereby destabilize his regime, causing a mass revolt. Absolute ignorance of the reality on the ground, as with Iraq. The "Reign of the Ayatollahs" is just a bit more entrenched than that, with a more structurally sound basis than this strategy would suggest. Lunacy. I can't know whether this is absolutely false rumor, rumor promoted by the White House itself to scare the bejeezus out of the Iranian regime, or truly a plan in place. Under either of the latter two scenarios, we're overdue for our own regime change. I can't believe this administration would be so ignorant of the value of legitimacy as to go this far in destroying any pretense to it that we might have left (and there isn't much) globally, and within the Islamic world in particular. But I've been surprised before. I really fear for the future of my boy, and despise what this regime has done to my country.
We're already doing that, anyone remember Afghanistan? We're still over there and it's getting worse by the day as the Taliban regroups. This would be a third front.
Of course plans are in place for attacking Iran. They are, after all, threatening the dollar by their plans to develop the Iranian Oil Bourse, which takes away the power of the petrodollar. Which is why the decades old retaliation-strike policy for use of nuclear weapons was replaced by the strike first one now in place.
I think it’s a mater o time before the war starts. Nothing makes more money than war. Personally we have very few soldiers over in Afghanistan “I think about around 140 “ but the truth is that if things keep on going the way they are we will also end up getting involved.
I think that Americans also have to be blamed for this situation. Why don’t they start building decent cars “scrap their V8 5,6 Litre engines†and use normal 1.2 and 1.4 like we do in Europe. We are depended on crude because our governments want us to be. It’s all a get rich quick thing. In Portugal they are already saying that they found oil deposits in Algarve and some other place that I cannot recall now and that extracting it is just a matter of time. I say lets get new energy sources and stop using Petrol cars.
Some would say that the Koran allows for Jihad only against those who attack Islam. The right to self defense. Wahabist extremists have perverted this to a more broad message, defining "self defense" as a pre-emptive policy of aggression, according to the moral dictates of a messianic oligarchy. Wait, that's the Bush Doctrine. I long for the good old days of true realpolitik; when ours was not a mission to expurgate the world's moral ills (according to our dictates of same), but a U.S. foreign policy where diplomacy and war were both waged, em, in the national interest. I think Hans Morganthau is likely rolling over in his grave.
Don't forget China. Quoted From The Taiwan question and reunification of China They've got a point. That's like Hawaii declaring themselves a separate country then China tells us we can't have them back and starts helping them build up their army. Now you've got China, Korea, and all the Muslim States. What allies do we have? None that will give us more than a few soliders. I don't think Great Britain will get involved in this one. I'm willing to bet that they will pull out if we go to war with Iran. At the very least we will suffer another terrorist attack. They've said that they will respond to any attack on Iran with a Terrorist attack and they've got one hundred times the resources that Al Qaeda has. Are borders just aren't secure enough for a war like that. Edit: I'm watching Fox News right now and they are agreeing with this crazy plan.
It's got nothing to do with cars. It's all about shifting away from the dollar. That's why Saddam got stomped -- he figured out how to strike back at the US using economics as a weapon and was trying to set up oil trading in petroeuros instead of petrodollars. That would be a devastating blow to the American economy. See this thread
I don’t think that the US want military support, what they want is financial support “very big difference†The US produces armament and it has to get rid of it one way or the other and they have a few options. 1) Sell it. Many rich countries produce their own WAR equipment like France, Germany, England, and Russia so they are just not interested on buying. The other option would be selling to countries like China, but that is just not a good idea. 2) Destroy it. Thousands of American Tax dollars are spent on producing bombs, so to spend more money dismantling them would create negative opinion on Voters. “Why spend money building them if we’re going to spend more money destroy them?†3) Hide them. I think they have just rand out of this option. 4) Declare war on a Nation. Use all surplus military arsenal on some country and then ask for compensation from countriesâ€NATO†that gave the “ok“for the invasion. Problem solved, got rid of military equipment, made some money and corporate America thanks you.
I was not aware of this and really cannot comment. I’m going to read around to see what I can find out. It is very interesting.
My personaly view is that America has recently been getting involved in shit it shouldn't be, and that the admin really do not understand the issues in the middle east. Amerian response: blow da shit out of them... ...well Americans cant be too surprised when people from da middle East start trying to blow da shit out of Americans. Brits should stay out of it, but it may be too late. I think we have been tainted by what is happening in Irqaq already.
I'm really starting to believe that all of our news stations are nothing but sources of propaganda. Why didn't I hear about this on Fox News, CNN, Dateline?
Unfortunately it's harder to convince the public of plans to bomb and kill people in other countries for the sake of the dollar and America's financial interests. You can't blame the government for this, really. Bill Hicks needs to be quoted here on the first 'War on Iraq': "We're goin' in at nine for God and country and he's a Hitler and -- hey, look, a fetus! Whatever you need, let's go! Whatever you, the apathetic, docile masses need to get behind this -- here, here's a fetus." Pete