US Marine: I Was Ordered to Execute Women and Children

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Hamba Wena, Sep 8, 2007.

  1. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #41
    poor stox, torturing himself to find a good answer once again. Those you support would be lopping off heads and strapping a bomb to a 6 year old by now. I, once again, congratulate you for not taking that extra step. ;)

    This is the point where you should learn a little:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

    I type: stox agrees with blowing up schools
    you type: lorien is a scumbag
    therefore the claim is false

    When, clearly, you've once again show it to be true.

    The "cause" you support celebrates blowing up schools, hospitals, markets etal. Does that make you proud? They seek to do it as often as possible - using kids, retarded people and the elderly as their weapons. Feel proud?

    Or did I miss your denuncation of this? Oh that's right. You didn't.

    Nope. Still a terrorist absolving loser. As always :(
     
    lorien1973, Sep 9, 2007 IP
  2. bogart

    bogart Notable Member

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    #42
    That's what he is saying.
     
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  3. Toopac

    Toopac Peon

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    #43
    Are you proud of the muslim population that blows up innocents everyday?
     
    Toopac, Sep 9, 2007 IP
  4. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #44
    It's also curious that'd choose this as an example:

    Given that stox supports groups who stated goal is to kill all the jews. Ah well. He's full of interesting details tonight.
     
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  5. bfebrian

    bfebrian Peon

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    #45
    poor the innocent Iraqis...
    escape from Saddam just to be thrown to US military...
    who is worst?
     
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  6. KalvinB

    KalvinB Peon

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    #46
    Let's ask the little boy with the red balloon (or was it a kite?) who is representative of Iraq.

    OR we could ask the millions that were slaughtered by Saddam.

    But they're dead so we had to ask the little boy instead.

    With Saddam there was guarenteed death. With the US, there is real hope of a better life for everyone not just those whom Saddam found favor with.
     
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  7. M5love

    M5love Well-Known Member

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    #47
    Rape, killing of innocent and other illegal activities takes place in every war there was/is. Nobody can deny that there are some in the army that don't give a damn about life - that's why they give orders/carry out orders.

    On the other hand, saying that all soldiers are guilty is WRONG! I feel for those true soldiers fighting in Iraq/Afghanistan and wherever else they are. They are innocent human beings controlled by some scums.

    At the same time, saying that how good soldiers are is wrong. ANY human being can commit a crime. Yes, even the dalai lama.
     
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  8. bfebrian

    bfebrian Peon

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    #48
    that family sure have a better life.... in heaven
     
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  9. stOx

    stOx Notable Member

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    #49
    Lorien re-read the definition again, Slowly this time. Ad hominem is when the person says there is something objectionable about person A, Therefor person A's claim is false. that isn't what i done. I said there is something objectionable about you because of your claim.

    I'm not saying your objectionable characteristics make your argument false, I'm saying your arguments are false and therefor you have objectionable characteristics. i.e you lied, Therefor you are a liar. Not, You are a liar, Therefor you lied.

    Get it now?

    No. See how easy that is. People with integrity have no problem answering these questions, It's only cowardly paedophile supporters who feel they have to dance around the issue without giving a straight answer. And when they do give a straight answer, They feel they have to support murdering paedophiles and even say that they make them proud, Isn't that right ly2.
     
    stOx, Sep 11, 2007 IP
  10. Toopac

    Toopac Peon

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    #50

    No the problem is that you are insinuating that all the military does what you have claimed, actually it's a few people. If you want to imply all the military are rapists then you have to accept all muslims are terrorists, as you can't have it both ways because that would be hypocritical.

    A rapist is scum & pedophile who has sex with children are also scum but many muslims justify this too as their prophet did such, so going by applying your reasoning to muslims, i could say they are pedophiles/rapists/terrorists.

    Do you see how you make a mistake with how you put together your claim now?

    Maybe you would like to stick to the facts in future & don't let your hate override commonsense.
     
    Toopac, Sep 11, 2007 IP
  11. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #51
    Poor stox. Keep trying. You dismissed reality because I'm a scumbag. You can keep ignoring that. That's fine. I don't really care. But clearly it shows you've lost the ability to argue intelligently here.

    By dodging the actual issue, for 4 posts now, you've shown you do agree with my original point. Your silence says a lot; and that you are now arguing form says even more ;)

    The lying liars and the lies they lie about. This is your summation, now. Wonderful, stox.

    Stince you are still confused. Here is further help. This example of yours is a non sequitor. Not an ad hominem. You really need help here, don't you?

    You should be familiar with non sequitors. They are the things you use all the time to make your arguments. You should really learn to love them.

    Still, i note you do not disagree with the points I've brought up and are now simply deflecting.

    I have to wonder why you even bother coming back to the thread. Unsubscribe and save yourself that last shred of dignity, stox.
     
    lorien1973, Sep 11, 2007 IP
  12. d16man

    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #52
    yes we do, but do you?

    exactly...which explains why it is so hard for you to answer any question at all....don't you have more terrorists to be supporting?
     
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  13. stOx

    stOx Notable Member

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    #53
    Maybe you should spend less time interpreting what i write and simply read the words. I wasn't insinuating anything, And if you thought otherwise it's because you lack skills in basic English.

    Lorien just admit that you didn't know what ad hominem means and that you used it incorrectly in an attempt to appear intellectual. I had to pull someone else up on this incorrect use the other day, Fortunately they had the brains to STFU and go away for a while, Instead you would rather keep coming back, Each time confirming you idiocy further.

    It's ad hominem. The argument suggests that because hitler killed jews his car must be bad.

    a non sequitor argument would be something like "hitler killed jews, Thats why not many jews buy the beetle". But as the argument suggests that hitlers car will be bad because of what hitler done that make it ad hominem.
     
    stOx, Sep 12, 2007 IP
  14. dimeadozen

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    #54
    Thats really sad , I am sure once the trial is over there will be talks of making it a movie...
     
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  15. Toopac

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    #55
    Well lets learn you some english then as you obviously don't know english at all:

    Here's what you put:

    You basically said "how can you be proud of the military?" as they (the whole organization including all troops) rape & murders 14 year old girls. Furthermore you basically said nobody can be proud of the military because if you are then that means you condone the "attack", one or six soldiers don't represent the whole military.

    That's pretty basic stuff st0x, i really can't fathom why you claim otherwise now but i suspect you are back peddling.
     
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    #56
    Kuwait City medical records and concluded that between August 1990 and March 3, 1991, a total of 1,082 Kuwaiti civilian deaths could be attributed directly to Iraqi criminal conduct. "The deaths include 120 babies left to die after being removed from the incubators that were taken to Iraq; 153 children between the ages of 1 and 13 killed for various reasons; and 57 mentally ill

    findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1571/is_10_19/ai_100962878
     
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  17. stOx

    stOx Notable Member

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    #57
    Again, Don't interpret what i say, Don't summarize it and don't break it down to something "basic". Simply read the words i write. If you can't understand what i write then i suggest you stop responding. The question is a simple one, Though apparently not simple enough for you.
     
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  18. Toopac

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    #58
    If you want to claim the grass is blue & the sky is green that's fine, the text is available to be read by everyone so there's no point discussing it further:

     
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  19. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #59
    stox is so proud of his beliefs that he cannot even espouse them when confronted. He has successfully dodged the issue for, going on 6 pages now. It's a most impressive accomplishment.

    He'll attempt to slander the entire military for the actions of a few soldiers (who were punished - life in prison if memory serves), then in the next breath go on to support people whose goal is to kill as many civilians as possible.

    It's quite the interesting situation he finds himself in.
     
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  20. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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