US Marine: I Was Ordered to Execute Women and Children

stox has the familiar tactic of ignoring that in the crime he mentions; the guys were sent to prison for life. st0x will then go on to ignore (or absolve) people of blowing up schools, markets, and using kids as bombs and saying that he agrees with their cause.

 

That's true Lorien, but Americans are held to a higher moral standard. That's why we are "right" and the terrorists are "wrong".

When we start saying that it's ok because the terrorists do worse, then we have lost our identity.

 

I don't believe I made that argument, did I? I know you like putting words into peoples' mouths, but you really shouldn't. You are bringing up a canard that doesn't even flow with what I've previously typed.

You cannot ensure 100% of people in any given situation will comply appropriately - in the military or not. The people who break our laws are punished. As were the guys who did the rapes or another actions. Therefore you cannot make the claim that it is some function of policy - which is stox's point (and yours I assume).

Then we have some here, who profess to be astounded, shocked and offended by such things, in the next breath profess their support of people who do far worse things and are not punished by their own laws/leadership.

I'm surprised you don't find that in the least bit hypocritical.

 

Suicide bombers are muslim terrorists sent to kill women and children. What more do I need to add.

 

anybody who is gives an order to kill inniocent women and children should be punished. if the women and childred posed a direct threat then i can see why the decision would be and SHOULD be made.

 

Even then you have to think twice

 

Considering the use of women and children by terrorists to murder I would not jump to the conclusion that any women or children killed by our soilders were innocent.

It's very sexist and agist to assume that women and children are not capable of being active members in terrorist ambitions.

It's not like women in civilized militias get to shoot the enemy with the expectation that they themselves can't be shot.

 

Was thinking the very same thing as I read through this. In islam, there are no innocent infidels. There are dhimmis (second class citizens) who pay extortion money to not be harassed *too much* as long as they remain subdued to their masters.

This is a key point here. Next time (as long as the quran is around, there will always be a next time, somewhere) a terrorist attack takes place, actively seek out responses from "islamic" leaders.

Their responses will always include words to the affect "we condemn the killing of innocents everywhere." To the untrained eye, it seems nice and convenient. To those that know, there are no innocent infidels (so they are not really condemning anything) and more importantly, they rarely condemn the actual attack. They simply say words to the affect "we condemn the killing of innocents everywhere." A generic blanket condemnation that has no meaning or substance behind it. Watch for it, next time the islamists feel the need to experiment with gun powder or c4.

 

The problem with what you are saying is that the Muslim militants can use the same logic when targeting Jews and Christians.

 

GTech already pointed that out Hamba right before your post.

It's very special of you to call that "logic."

I'm sure the terrorists are happy to have people like you who can't realize how batshit crazy they are.

Let's break this down:

Muslim women and children carry out suicide bombings, shoot at our soldiers (some of whom are women) just like the "men" so when our soilders come across women and children they don't give them a free pass.

Terrorist enablers like you then decide it's okay to murder women and children civilians who never lifted a finger against anyone because we kill their soldiers who sometimes happen to be women and children.

The internet had to be created in order to contain the stupid of the world.

 

Not at all you lying scum bag, In fact you can see clearly in the some of the posts that gtwat so frequently posts that i say i defend their cause but not their actions. Let me know if you are having any trouble with some of the words and I'll give you a lesson in basic English.

Answer this, Simply yes or no. Are you proud of your military that rapes and murders 14 year old girls? I bet you don't answer.

 

Poor stox. Caught in an obviously hypocritical situation, once again, resorts to ad hominem attacks. I guess that's better than blowing up a school or hospital, which those he supports would more likely resort to, though. So, on that count, I congratulate him.

Tired of having me answer "no" on this yet? See, the inherent difference is that when these guys do these things and get caught,they are put away for a very very long time.

The "cause" you support celebrates blowing up schools, hospitals, markets etal. Does that make you proud? They seek to do it as often as possible - using kids, retarded people and the elderly as their weapons. Feel proud?

Their cause is furthered by their actions. The two are inseparable. They seek to destroy civilians, innocents and that to cause more violence. By supporting the cause you have to support the actions, now, dont you?

 

Are you labeling the whole military as a 14 year old girl rapist and murderer, because a couple of soldiers supposedly committed those crimes ?

 

That's his attempt. And he still has nothing bad to say about blowing up markets, schools and hospitals. Just agrees that he supports the cause. Says he doesn't support the actions, but since he doesn't say anything bad about it; apparently he has less of a problem with it. Interesting. Isn't it?

 

So is Bush.

 

Yes, I am.

 

I'm proud of the US military too!

 

If you are going to call logical fallacy in an attempt to appear intellectual at least find out what it means before making a fool out of yourself. It's only "ad hominem" if i say you are wrong because you are a lying scum bag. That isn't what i'm saying, I'm saying you are a lying scum bag because you are lying. That isn't ad hominem, Your fail, I win.

Ad hominem is when i use your personal characteristics as a basis for an argument against what you are saying.
Hitler killed jews, So the VW beetle is a bad car. - ad hominem
Hitler killed jews, What an ass hole. - Not ad hominem.
get it?

They didn't supposedly commit the crimes,. They were tried and convicted. They are rapist murdering paedophiles. Make you proud?

To be honest i wouldn't have expected anything less than support for murdering paedophiles from you. let me bookmark that post to use it against you at a later date.

 

You didn't answer my question. Do you label the whole US military as rapist murdering pedophiles ? Because it sure seems so from your posts.

 

You're a F'ing moron. Don't give me a loaded question and expect a good answer. You can use whatever you want "against me" at a later date, knock yourself out.