US Can’t Win Against Iran Says Top Russian General

Russia's top general Yuri Baluyevsky said today that the US would be unable to inflict a defeat in an open armed confrontation with Iran and the result of such a confrontation would be a “huge political mistake.”

"It is possible to damage Iran's military and industrial potential, but it is impossible to win," General Yuri Baluyevsky was quoted as saying.

The General went on to tell a Russian news agency "The Americans must think twice (about attacking Iran)," adding "They have already got stuck in Afghanistan and Iraq."

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One of the big problems is how few troups we currently have, and how many places we're spreading them out. There's the American people's dislike for the current state of war, and the congress which wants to end the wars we are in, rather than spending more money. If the American people as a whole were behind it like we were after pearl harbor, I do believe we would be able to conquer Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, call for Military law, and leave the populus without any military, dependent upon us and eventually our ally, as we did with Germany, and Japan.

 

I suppose it's all down to the type of win Yuri Baluyevsky has in mind. Does he mean if the US did what their doing Iraq i think that's what he means when he said:

"They have already got stuck in Afghanistan and Iraq"

If so he's probably right.

The US could win Iran by simply destroying key targets & infrastructure, then just leave them in the mess they created.

Besides the US has alot of allies if needed so the argument is pointless, Iran stands no chance the most they can do is inflict damage & death but they can't "win".

 

the whole concept is silly - we are "stuck" in afghanistan and iraq because we are fighting a politically correct war. We overlooked defeating the enemy before we rebuilt the government and infrastructure. Imagine fighting ww2 this way. Don't defeat the nazis, just try to rebuild france while the germans are lobbing missiles and bombs your way all the time. we'd still be fighting that war if handled this way.

 

Excellent comparison. It´s like having a fight with one hand tied behind your back.

 

Small brains think alike.

 

Iran got 29 Tor-M1 systems(surface-to-air) from Russia in novemeber-january. Pretty modern stuff. It has a tracking range of only 25km. A maximal effective range 12km and maximal effective intercepting altitude of 6km. It's in other words not designed for high altitude bombers. I doubt that Iran could defend it's nuclear facilities with these weapons, but they could use their shahab missiles to retaliate.

Israels Arrow2 system is supposed to handle these missiles. It might work. US/UK military bases around Iran have no protection against Shahab-3 missiles(from what I know) but the bases are big so they might send a couple missiles for every base they decide to bomb.

Iran may also try to sink some ships in the Persian Gulf. But then they must first get within reach.

 

If we actually fought Iran like wars have and should be fought, we would destroy them. If we go in there like Bush has done with Iraq, then yes, we will fail.
We need a real leader, I do think Bush is burnt out and no longer thinking logically. He is too worried about world opinion. He needs to stop wondering what France and Russia think and do what he knows needs to be done.

 

since when has anyone actually listened to what the russian's have to say? After all, they are the ones selling iran the nuke tech.

 

I think it´s the pressure from people within the US. Bush knows better than letting the world tell America how to handle its business. But many Americans seem to be passionate about putting the US down. Which is sad. My favorite ones are the idiots who come to Costa Rica because ¨this peaceful country has no army¨, not knowing about a contract binding the US military to protect Costa Rica.
It´s funny when I ask those people ¨why do you think Nicaragua has never attacked Costa Rica¨, and their reply is ¨I´m wondering that myself sometimes ... ¨

 

Just hit their one measly gasoline refinery...

 

All its going to take is one light-yield "MOAB" into the reinforced bunker of their nuke facility and it's game over. i don't understand all the pussy-footing around.

 

exactly...hasn't blair now said that "in 48 hours we will see progress" on two different days? (not a direct quote, but something to that effect)

 

Well, the US can bomb the place and kill a lot of people. However, the US can NOT win in Iran for the same reason as it can not win in Iraq.
The Middle East isn't like Japan or Germany. The arabs and persians will fight us for hundred of years as long as we are occupying their land.
It is as simple as that. They will accept foreigners in their soil UNLESS we can kill ALL of them.
It's about time that we, in the US, realize that we can not rule other people. The French have learnt their lessons. The British have learnt their lessons. America has not learnt that yet.
Also, just because we call other people "terrorists" does not mean that we have the right to do the kind of things that we are doing.

 

jack bauer is gonna be real busy

 

No one is occupying land. Well, Arabs are and have been occupying land for generations through their islamic conquests by the sword. That aside, we are there at the request of the Iraqi government. That's not occupation, though it makes a great victimhood word.

We have every right to stop terrorists, though it's very clear some here wish those terrorists would take over Iraq. But none of those supporting and cheering for them are willing to move to Iraq and live under their rule.

 

It will be biggest mistake if U.S does.. They have already messed two countries. Afghanistan and Iraq..

U.S may beat Iran in war.. but they can't win a country.. Do you really think they won Iraq??
OMG why the fug we have UN ??

..:: peace ::.
Jeba

 

The original concept behind it was good, but we all know that they cannot make any good decisions.

 

US can't beat Iran military. And when Iran beats US they will lauch counter attack and US is going to be in serious trouble!

 

Meanwhile the US defeated Russia... hmmm..