US Border Control? Deadly Mexican Swine Flu Pandemic Spreading to US

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by bogart, Apr 25, 2009.

  1. #1
    What's Obama going to do about this?

    The US has no means to control the border with Mexico and a deadly swine flu pandemic is spreading to the US from Mexico. There are already 68 dead and Mexico and 1,000 sick. The new strain of swine flu has spread to California, Texas, Kanas and New York.

    A worldwide flu pandemic killed 40 million people in 1918 and Health Officals are deeply concerned about the possibility of a worldwide pandemic.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090425/ap_on_re_us/us_swine_flu_states
     
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  2. Bakai

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    Why does this scenario bring Stephen King to mind? Seems like in "The Stand" a "super flu" all but wiped out humanity.

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    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    Too late to keep it out of the country, you can thank our (Democrat) politicians for letting the turdworlders come freely (illegally) over the border to spread diseases, murder our people then vote for more democrats.
     
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  4. bogart

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    The fatality rate of the mexican swine flu is approx 8%.

    The World Health Organization chief said Saturday that the strain has "pandemic potential," and it might be too late to contain a sudden outbreak.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090426/ap_on_re_us/us_swine_flu_states

    1918 Spanish Flu Pandemic

    The global mortality rate from the 1918/1919 pandemic is not known, but is estimated at 2.5 to 5% of the human population, with 20% or more of the world population suffering from the disease to some extent. Influenza may have killed as many as 25 million in its first 25 weeks.

    Another unusual feature of this pandemic was that it mostly killed young adults, with 99% of pandemic influenza deaths occurring in people under 65, and more than half in young adults 20 to 40 years old.

    An estimated 7 million died in India, about 2.78% of India's population at the time.

    In the U.S., about 28% of the population suffered, and 500,000 to 675,000 died.

    In Britain as many as 250,000 died; in France more than 400,000. In Canada approximately 50,000 died. Entire villages perished in Alaska and southern Africa.

    Scientists have used tissue samples from frozen victims to reproduce the virus for study. Given the strain's extreme virulence there has been controversy regarding the wisdom of such research.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1918_flu_pandemic

    The virus is already in but there are some factors to consider. (1) The amount of cases are few so if we close the border now, the flu could be contained. We could also concentrate our medical efforts and limited antiviral drugs to treat the hot spots (2) Slowing the spread of the virus would buy time to develop a vaccine. (3) Viruses of this nature have various strains. The strain in Mexico appears to be a more virulent strain.

    So, it isn't too late to close the border if we have the political will.
     
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    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    I was about to mention that :) . Really hope that it will not evolve into another Spanish Flu pandemic. Proper sanitary and health measures need to be taken by all parties to ensure this strain does not go over the borders to the world.

     
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    The Asian countries have been very successful in containing the spread of bird flu.

    In contrast, Mexico lost weeks in responding to the new flu virus which was first detected in late March and early April. The first death occurred in Oaxaca Mexico on April 13, but Mexico didn't send mucous samples to the Center for Disease Control until April 18.

    The mexican swine flu is killing people aged 20 to 40. The fatalities during the Spanish flu pandemic in 1918-19, also killed mainly healthy young adults.


    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090426/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/med_swine_flu
     
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    While the numbers may at first appear alarming it's worth pointing out that every year 36,000 people die from regular flu in the US alone, so the 68 killed by this particular strain, while regrettable, pale in significance when compared the death count we experience with regular flu at present.

    the chances of western countries of having another flu pandemic is slim given what we now know about the virus and it's transmission. Though given that influenza is an RNA virus and thus lacking DNA polymerase it is unable to find and repair mutations in it's genome, and evolves very quickly. meaning having an effective immunisation program is unlikely.

    I wouldn't worry too much about it. Though i'm sure fox news will use it as a reason to rally the masses about dem der brown folks bringing dem deezeezes
     
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    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    That's a rally I'd attend.

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    Had that in my yard for a couple years.
     
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    Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and the acting director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention will hold a news briefing at 12:30 p.m. ET. today on swine flu and the government's response.

    The fact remains that the US has lost control of its southern border with Mexico.

    Normally mortality from flu is limited to elderly people that have underlying chronic illness. In a pandemic mainly healthy young adults between the ages of 20 to 40 suffer high mortality rates. The death rate in Mexico appears to be approx 7%. Don't be fooled. The World Health Organiztion is alarmed for good reason.

    Btw, don't drink the water :D
     
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    That's the spirit! Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free indeed! :rolleyes:

    No, in pandemics the very young, very old and ill are still most likely to die. In pandemics no greater percentage of any given infected demographic die. More from each demographic die because infection rates are higher, but you are no more likely to die if you are infected as part of a pandemic than if you were an isolated case. Pandemics don't mean the virus it worse, it just means it's more infectious.

    The W.H.O are right to be concerned, There is a new strain of flu, it's their job to be concerned. I doubt they are alarmed though. They leave ill-informed reactionary outbursts to the media and the people who get their science news from it. oh, and those who like to use things like this as a stick to beat immigrants with.
     
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    I would beg to differ from that. Till now there is no major outbreak of Avian flu in Asia. If there is, you should know what happened to SARs in China, they hide the fact of SARs till it is impossible to hide and caused thousands of needless deaths. The porous borders between the USA and Mexico needs to be strengthened and policed. Any lapse in containment of the flu can have disastrous consequences.


     
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    I wouldn't be so much opposed to illegal immigration if we stopped giving them welfare checks and social services. The federal government is worthless anyhow, they'll never do anything about the problem, because it gets them more D votes and is a juicy opportunity for more government.

    They come over here from their shithole knowing they'll get these free services, and bring their shithole culture with them.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mara_Salvatrucha
     
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    Actually Mara Salvatrucha was started by gang members that were deported from Los Angeles to Central America.

    When you loose control of the borders, there's no security. Drugs, disease and terrorists cross the border almost unchecked. Many illegal aliens work for cash and collect welfare. This is a result of having 15 million people in the US that the government has no record of.

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    That damn napolitano is so incompetent. There should be lockdown on the border and air travel between mexico. We should have all of our national guard called up to patrol our borders.
     
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    The death toll in Mexico has increased to 103 and the number of confirmed cases has increased to 1600.

    The situation is bad in Mexico. They are playing soccer matches in Mexico with the stadiums empty.

    WHO Director-General Margaret Chan called the outbreak a public health emergency of "pandemic potential" because the virus can pass from human to human.
     
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    The number of deaths and those suspected of catching it seems to be growing exponentially per day. This may mean in a week things could get ugly. Time will tell though its too early I think to know what will happen within a week.

    I just wonder if mexico planted by the government this so they could keep distracted the revolution from happening. Mexico has been in a drug civil war. its real bad down there, ive talked to people who went there and said drug lords run the small towns.

    Other possibilities is it was planted by the pharmaceutical companies (baxter) or even the U.S government so they can blame the total collapse of the u.s economy on the flu.
     
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    Australia owns the vaccine for this flu so you can stop hiding behind your filthy racist agenda on this matter and move on to something legitimate. Sometimes I do ask myself why I bother responding to crap like this rather than just move on to the next thread and let morons be morons.
     
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    no he didn't.

    from the artilce:
    But don't let the facts get in the way of a good scaremongering.... :rolleyes:
     
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