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Uploading a Sitemap to Google Webmaster Tools Slows Indexing of Your New Pages

Discussion in 'Google Sitemaps' started by Paintball Guns, Nov 28, 2007.

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Do you submit your sitemap to Google Webmaster Tools?

Poll closed Dec 28, 2007.
  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. #1
    The title of this post states my theory. What do you think? Here is how I arrived at this conclusion:

    I have a blog and I uploaded its sitemap to Google Webmaster Tools. However, I uploaded the sitemap a few weeks ago, and the blog has many new pages/posts since then, so the sitemap on Google Webmaster Tools is out of date.

    If Google uses the sitemap I uploaded to Google Webmaster Tools, Google will be using the out-of-date sitemap. However, if I don't upload the sitemap.xml to Google Webmaster Tools, Google will be forced to pull the fresh/current sitemap from my www.domain.com/sitemap.xml file.

    Thus, it seems that if I want Google to find the most current sitemap.xml, I should not upload it to Google Webmaster Tools.

    What do you think? Does this logic make sense or am I missing something?
     
    Paintball Guns, Nov 28, 2007 IP
  2. ruffnat

    ruffnat Peon

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    #2
    that makes sense to me

    isn't google being lazy by wanting sitemaps?

    I mean, it makes sense for big static sites that might have a lot of duplicated content

    but for forums and blogs it makes no sense to me
     
    ruffnat, Nov 28, 2007 IP
  3. BTCollins

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    #3
    I have a site that gets about 200 articles submissions per day.
    So I try to update my sitemap daily and get it uploaded.

    I suppose I could use the Google Webmaster Tools

    But it would be just another chore.
     
    BTCollins, Nov 28, 2007 IP
  4. ssandecki

    ssandecki Peon

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    #4
    Regardless what is displayed in your sitemap GoogleBot will still crawl your entire site. The submit sitemap gives it the structure layout but rest assure it will find your other pages not included in your sitemap. Once you have a mature site that contains backlinks you don't really need to submit a sitemap anymore, I still do for arguements sake.
     
    ssandecki, Nov 28, 2007 IP
  5. mattaw101

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    #5
    google automatically re downloads your sitemaps every so often im pretty sure, so just keep it updated and you shouldnt have a problem (in webmaster tools i mean)
     
    mattaw101, Nov 28, 2007 IP
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    aspire Well-Known Member

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    #6
    so can we do away withoug having a google sitmap
     
    aspire, Dec 2, 2007 IP
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    #7
    I still submit my sitemap everytime I update for arguement sake, it doesn't take long to rebuild it and takes seconds to re-submit, the time it costs vs the possible results is totally worth it.
     
    ssandecki, Dec 2, 2007 IP
  8. Paintball Guns

    Paintball Guns Active Member

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    #8
    You are correct. Google Webmaster Tools will pull a new version of the sitemap you have on your site every few days so it crawls the latest copy. In other words, it doesn't hurt to tell Google Webmaster Tools that you have a sitemap.

    By the way, if your sitemap is not named "sitemap.xml" or a similar typical sitemap name that Google spiders would look for, then telling Google Webmaster Tools the name and location of your sitemap is especially important.
     
    Paintball Guns, Mar 3, 2008 IP
  9. rhardo

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    #9
    IMHO, you can actually... google will still crawl your site without the sitemap as long as you have a good linking structure... I have a couple of "non-sitemap" websites and every now and then, google recrawls them...
     
    rhardo, Mar 3, 2008 IP
  10. GetFirstPageSEO

    GetFirstPageSEO Peon

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    Yes.. google will spider just about anything ... but I would post up a robot.txt on your root to help the spiders do it correctly. Pretty simple you could just do * / Allow All if you want all indexed.. not saying it will..but it could.
     
    GetFirstPageSEO, Apr 10, 2010 IP
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    #11
    I have a site that gets about 200 articles submissions per day.
    So I try to update my sitemap daily and get it uploaded
    I still submit my sitemap everytime I update for arguement sake
     
    rocksam, Apr 16, 2010 IP
  12. fanofchopin

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    #12
    Some of the sitemap service out there will enable you to auto-submitting your site into Google. Maybe you could give it a try for a heavily-updated sites..
     
    fanofchopin, Apr 16, 2010 IP