Unsecured Wireless Router... What if neighbors are on your connect and click ads?

Discussion in 'AdSense' started by IanT, Mar 16, 2010.

  1. #1
    I just posted another question, but then it lead me to this question too so I wanted to make a sep. thread. I have an unsecured router (because Im in a rental house)... I have been getting friendly with the neighbors and have told them about my interests and such (I have a site about soap making and crafts)... some of them checked the site out and told me they liked it...

    Now by chance... They could be on my same connection (so same IP/Router)... I dont ask as its not my router, I dont have admin access to secure it, and Im only here for a few more days so ...why bother....

    but anyway, what if these people I told who could potentially be on my wireless connection click an ad on the site (note: I have NOT told them to do so)... just speaking theoretically... would that count against me? or is it considered a unique occurance since they are obviously not on my computer etc...

    Thanks...
     
    IanT, Mar 16, 2010 IP
  2. Stickynotee

    Stickynotee Peon

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    Ian,
    Ofcourse it would count against you. Google can't come to your house and check your computer logs and your neighbor's computer logs to check who exactly clicked the ad. If they are connected to your internet, they have your IP. If they have your IP. And they know about your website. And they go to your website. And they click ads. Then it shows up as you clicking them for yourself, and Google WILL ban your account.
    I suggest you talk to your neighbors about the ads, and ask them not to click them.
     
    Stickynotee, Mar 16, 2010 IP
  3. craig105

    craig105 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah just tell them not to click your ads then you should be fine.
     
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    You say they are friendly so I think they could understand it. Tell them not to click the ads..
     
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  5. monita

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    Just tell them not to click on the ads. It's prohibited by google, as google don't know that It's not You.
     
    monita, Mar 17, 2010 IP
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    Block your IP from showing ads... Simple as that.
     
    PetCareEducation, Mar 17, 2010 IP
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    #7
    When you ask questions like this, you need to use a little logic.
    Or non-logic.

    Logically, speaking, have you used wireless in a hotel? Starbucks?
    On a college campus? (I work on one) In fact, the entire city
    of Riverside , CA is going wi-fi. I suspect most neighborhoods are
    on the same. So, what is a person going to do? Fret? Google most
    assuredly knows that there are places where literally thousands of
    users are on the same connection. Secure or not. People obviously need
    to do a little research on IPs if they think they have an absolutely unique
    IP. I won't even get to a discussion on dial up, except to say many people
    are still on dial up. And guess what?....

    Stephen C
     
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  8. Tearabite

    Tearabite Prominent Member

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    Adsense Rule #1: NEVER tell your friends about your website!
     
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    Jontish Well-Known Member

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    Never login to your Adsense account from a public connection again and you won't have to worry.
     
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    I think Google uses certain technologies to differentiate these cases, cos there are many areas here, where we use a shared connection...
     
    ironmaiden, Mar 17, 2010 IP
  11. FavouritesBlog

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    I wouldn't worry too much in all honesty, google only look at your account after 10 clicks on ads from your site on the same IP that you logged into adsense with.

    Half the time they ignore it, however if it gets excessive then they will take note.

    I highly doubt your neighbours would click.
     
    FavouritesBlog, Mar 17, 2010 IP
  12. Project Mobius

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    can you find me the source where google won't look until there are more than 10 clicks from same IP?
     
    Project Mobius, Mar 18, 2010 IP
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    Thanks...I was wondering where he got that information, too. Love all these "Google does this" or "Google does that" comments by people who likely haven't the foggiest. By the way did anyone know that Google only serves actual ads to every other visitor? The other ads look the same but the clicks don't count. (and for the gullible newbies on here, I'm KIDDING...just wait, someone is going to spout the preceding as fact in some "why aren't my clicks showing" thread)
     
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  14. adcents

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    I found it best to not tell people you know about your Adsense site. My old room mate was jealous and when I moved out he started clicking on my ads. I was able to know it was him because of the logs. Luckily, I did not get banned. From my experience it is best to not tell friends about your site.
     
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  15. Project Mobius

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    obviously there's a difference between room mate and friend :)
     
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    My room mate was my friend. I never thought my room mate would do such a thing. My point is don't tell people in your life about your site. You never know who will get jealous. This also goes for people online. I have read posts here about getting click bombed and they suspected other DP members.
     
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    #17
    Never tell a friend or family member period. Consider blocking the IP from showing the ads and of course secure the router.

    Just think unsecured router in an apartment complex hacker installs keylogger and knows personal details about you where you live what type of car may have access to your snail mail ... ouch.
     
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    #18

    Just ring them or contact them via email. Ask what the threshold is for max clicks on ads for developers of your site. they will tell you 10 clicks to the same IP logged in as admin.

    Along with that, a very close friend has work with google - Great person to know for direct support.

    If i didn't have the facts, I wouldn't post it....
     
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  19. Project Mobius

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    so far still no written proof
     
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    #20
    Don't ask them to click for you.
    Even if they click once it is ok.
    Google® does not depend on ip addresses only for verifying invalid clicks. (They use much more - cookies, hostname, and things that you even don't know, they have rocket scientists hidden down there :) )
     
    Quietmenace, Mar 18, 2010 IP