Hey guys, I wanted to know how many hosts currently still alive, and on DP have sold/sell unlimited web hosting as it seems that there is about 3/4ths of the offers on DP are unlimited these days Just note, this is a public poll so people can see what you've put, so if you don't want people to know you sell unlimited, don't vote ** Note to mods. I feel even though this is a BST section, it should stay here as most hosts probably won't visit the General Chat section, although if you find it necessary, you can move it. **
Personally I am a little sick of all the 'unlimited' plans that are getting sold. It has totally devalued hosting. People expect unreasonable deals for unreasonable prices.
I agree. I mean, we have people going around and selling unlimited resellers for $2 per month now. It's stupid
The current " unlimited" phase is just another crazy stage of this thing we call webhosting. I have operated a webhosting company since 2003, and I can tell you that things have changed alot the past couple of years. Anyone now adays can create a webhosting company, but the major factor is can you monetize it? From what it looks like, hosting in the next 2-5 years will be dominated by the big players such as hostgator for the budget clients, and rackspace for the high demand clients. I personally see nothing wrong with this, as times change along with trends. If your starting a webhosting company today and expect to make it your full time occupation, you HAVE to find your own niche. Simply offering "unlimited" like everyone else is not going to cut it.
The only unlimited host I've tried is HostGator. I didn't really experience any problems with them, but as you can see, I now have my own business. But you have to remember, "unlimited" is different for every host. All hosts use it as a marketing technique (at least, the hosts that offer it), but some hosts can get you farther to "unlimited" than others. When I first launched Addictive Hosting, I saw Forcium Hosting offering insane amounts of resources for dirt cheap, so I figured I'd give it a shot. After a few weeks of overselling, I figured that it was a really bad idea, as someone is bound to sign up and actually use those resources, in which case I would be obligated to buy another hard drive, and ultimately face bandwidth overage fees. In my honest opinion, it's a bad market to get in (overselling & unlimited hosting). I'm actually about to modify our hosting plans again. We will be offering a lower amount of resources on our packages, and at higher rates (keep in mind, this is for new customers). I think it's a great step for any host, because this market has become saturated with script kiddies who love to send SPAM to thousands of people. Seeing as how they use their parents' credit cards, or have a PayPal with limited cash (which is why the do a chargeback or file an unauthorized claim at PayPal - unless they actually hacked into it and stole the money), so I highly doubt the script kiddies could afford to pay a higher amount for premium hosting. Well, that's my two cents on overselling & unlimited hosting in general.
I still have 4 accounts all un-metered not unlimited 3 from last month all reseller accounts and 1 unmetered shared hosting for almost 4 months now,And 1 of my reseller account is not doing well now and this is from mycoolworld and I am very dis appointed with hes absence of support and I got no idea where he is. The other 2 is doing ok but I didn't tried hosting them with BIG websites so I can't say how reliable they are.
Its the same concept in the freelancing market. I used to charge lets say for example, $100 for a slice up of xhtml/css coding. Then all of a sudden, all these new people were doing it for $25 dollars or even less. It just ruins the market and takes business from the people who are really offering quality services. Its a shame, but it is what it is.
Most hosts that offer the unlimited plans will not last, or will be shut down by the server admin. I am not going to put any one down for offering unlimited or unmetered as we have always offer it. But there are limits to the unmetered hosting. Our unmetered plans are not allowed to run proxies, or free hosting accounts, file sharing and have other limitations. And in most cases there is a server resources clause that states no 1 account can consume more than xx% of the server resources. I would strongly suggest if you were going to use or buy a unlimited plan be very careful and read the TOS, if they are a reseller then read the TOS of the server admin, to make sure you will not get your accounts shut down. If it sounds to good to be true then most likely it is, our unmetered standard hosting is 9.99 a month. Just know what you are buying and from who you are buying it from.. Know what you are allowed to host and what you are not.. If you are unsure if you should host it, then ask that is the best thing to do is ask lots of questions.
I use to pay $300 a month for 500GB worth of bandwidth from rackshack. Now I pay $300 a month for a dedicated 100mbps connection.......
Just as iwhic stated there are really no unmetered hosting plans that fully unmetered everything has a limit on our master reseller unlimited we have cpu limits and file rules, and of course no proxies on those plans. If you were to really offer unmetered with out a strong t.o.s the clients could easily put you out of business,
I know I'm contradicting myself so much right now, but I hate it. I hate unlimited/unmetered/whatever you want to call it I feel guilty for selling it but it's the only way I can compete and make sales, I havn't had a job for months (hard to find one for my skill in my area) and although I don't have any real expenses, job seeker income doesn't last forever. (In fact I've never made enough that it was worth withdrawing to my bank account). I want to eventually offer hosting at decent prices, ones that I will actually be able to rent/buy a server, not oversell and still make profit, but to do that I'd need to offer all other products or whatever to beef up the price. Btw I was with ConnectHost for a few months then had to leave (I have very little income) cause I couldn't afford it anymore plus too much irl, however my experience with ConnectHost was second to none, excellent customer support and fast servers, if I had took the time to finish my site maby I could've sold some space and kept it going. However I did learn a bit about ClientExec and here thank them for that. I've just updated HostVERTIGO's layout, changed prices, done a clean install of phphostbot and modified the client section in a bid to try and get new customers. I will soon be expanding, hitting an untapped market in my local area, this will allow me to spread my services by physical word of mouth. Who knows, I could possibly get them to eventually pay realistic prices and I could get a server hosted locally, allowing a better service and extrememly low ping. Even for the unlimited hosts, it's hard. I try selling mid and high no one wants, I sell cheap, some want, very cheap, no one wants....
Although I have ended selling unmetered personally, but there is nothing bad in this. I have seen Cameron recommending BlueHost which is again selling unlimited. All the famous companies (except Cameron's ) sell Unlimited. If Hostgator, Hostmonster, BlueHost which are having great reputaion in the market can sell UNLIMITED with the same servers at same DC then why not others? And I do not think now prices are very much different.. BlueHost offers Unlimited Space/Bandwidth/Domains for mere $6.95/mo then why a growing company can't sell reseller for the same. Expecting that the unlimited domains of BlueHost will be almost equal to the unlimited number of domains by it's resellers. If you have ToS and CPU use limit, there is nothing bad in unlimited/unmetered as big B's are doing so.
i do not support unlimited/unmetered offers , they just dont fit for hosting. its just a lure to get more clients. And it does destroy the competition. Also there is no such thing as unlimited since the hard disk has a limit , the bandwidth has a limit , the CPU has a limit...i haven't seen any unlimited storage hard disk? its only a saying... there is no such thing, and no one can provide that , its like playing a game with customers. i'd definitely avoid it , no matter how few customers i get , i prefer few clients then having crowded servers where i cant provide what i said i would. Cheers, SameerHosting
We are selling UNLIMITED pack since Oct. 1998 and still going on and will carry on on the same FREEZED price Regards, Toniya
Good point. If you can't market/monetize it then you won't get very far. I bet you 98% of hosts less than a year old here at DP will collapse unless they either have huge financial backing or if they don't have a job and can be at home 24/7. Good point. I suppose unlimited really is OK if you are huge and can afford to have servers filled with terabytes of hard drives, but not the oversellers who are 12 year olds with Master resellers costing $10 per year! Well that's what generally happens. The company will be there for a month or 2 and then they'll just disappear. Yep, everyone's working for cheap/selling out for cheap these days Exactly Wow, how long ago was that? Yep No problemo I don't think I have ever recommended BlueHost... I don't even really like them. Can you show me where I have recommended them?
Yes I have in the past because I was a dumbass some super cheap price crappy host, but I have learned.
I'm sorry. I mean among the three I mentioned.. http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=8341043&postcount=10 Regards