United States Heading towards a Depression?

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  1. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #8401
    Of the 20,000 people at the DNC, here is what the Washington Post had to say.
    The description continues. It is surreal.
    These are the people getting down to the business of a struggling nation. I'm sure after a week of cream rinses and mimosas, they'll get back to authoring stories about how out of touch Romney is.
     
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  2. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    Have I mentioned lately how good it is to be a Wisconsinite?

    Walker, Ryan, Miss America, Packers... Beer... Home of the Republican Party...

    It's going to be fun to watch Ryan destroy Biden in the debates!
     
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    #8403
    I agree !! ;-)
     
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    grpaul Well-Known Member

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    #8404
    A couple more lines from Michele's speech. Trying to understand the logic here, might make your head explode.

     
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  5. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #8405
    And HE built that!
     
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  6. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #8406
    So true. Unlike him, I'm more than happy to give him credit for his work.
     
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  7. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #8407
    He's got only one person to blame now.
     
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    Yes, let's pander to the masses, rather than let professionals do their jobs. (We aren't holding elections this November for "Pastor-in-Chief", we're holding elections for someone who will fix the economy - the one that Republicans keep destroying by lowering taxes that are already on the bottom part of the Laffer curve. You don't rebuild a blown-up house with dynamite.)

    Because prayer has been shown to be so effective, and it's a lot better than money when your home has been destroyed. Money only buys all the things you're lacking. Prayer gets you ... er ... sore knees, which hurricane victims are so in need of.

    They had pastors coming out of their ears, what they needed in that instance was what Romney would call temporal help. And he failed. (How many houses did he or Massachusetts rebuild or pay to have rebuilt?)

    The man is great at immediately coming up with ... exactly what's not needed, but will make him look best. We need someone who actually understands the economy, not someone who knows how to manipulate it to his personal advantage. We did 1929 already, we don't need to do it again.

    And Paul Lyin? There goes Myth Romney pandering again.
     
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    Cindy Gillespie, who worked closely with Romney when he ran the Salt Lake City Olympics and then moved to Massachusetts to work with him, recalled a less dramatic illustration of Romney's approach. When movers left her bedroom set stranded in the driveway of her new town house after failing to maneuver it up a narrow staircase, Romney -- then the governor -- arrived with three of his sons and they worked together late into the evening to hoist the furniture over the second floor balcony.
     
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    Sure he does - raising taxes is a necessary part of fixing what's wrong with the economy. But with enough Republicans in Congress that'll never happen.

    to be implemented by the Republicans. (There, I finished your sentence for you.) The stimulus did what it was intended to do - getting back some of the 850,000 jobs we lost due to Bush 2's policies - but it was too little (all the Republicans would allow) and it ended too soon (because they wouldn't extend it.) If the growth in jobs we saw between February 2009 and April 2010 had continued, companies would have been screaming for more workers by the end of 2010. (Obama gained us more than 1 million jobs during that period.)

    See my signature for a short lesson on Economics 101.
     
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    One of the stories friends are now telling about Romney -- to get across their view of him -- details the medical school loan he gave to the daughter of a deceased Bain colleague. Romney met with her every semester, according to his son Tagg, to discuss her grades and expenses. After she graduated, he sent her a Christmas card, forgiving the loan.
     
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    And let's not forget Joe McCarthy, that bastion of American "values" and a member of that same Republican party.

    It's also the home of union busting. And who are the unions? They're "we, the people", that's who, and that's who the Republican party wants to bust. And that's who Republicans who make less than $250,000 a year want to bust - themselves. Let's not ensure that a working man can earn enough money to support his family, if that means that Romney can't earn 20 million tax free dollars next year.

    But if you like having the rights of the people trampled on by the likes of Romney and McCarthy, I guess it's great being a Wisconsinite.
     
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  13. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    Unions are at the forefront of the economic meltdown and a great part of the problem.

    We're not busting unions. We're freeing hard working American's from their crooked captors.

    Power to the People Brutha!
     
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    #8414
    You mean like the plant Lyin Ryan excoriated Obama for not saving? You're saying that Obama was right for not saving it from failure? And Ryan was wrong for complaining about doing what Ryan says should be done?

    IOW, O'nation, if Obama does it, it's wrong - because Obama did it. And if the Republicans do it, it's right - because the Republicans did it.

    Thank you for letting us know exactly where you're coming from. It's helpful in evaluating your opinions.
     
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    #8415
    The funny thing is, I was never really a huge Romney fan. I suspect his view of how large our federal government should be is much bigger than what I think it ought to be.

    After reading story after story of individuals stepping forward, talking about the character of the man, in terms of generousity with his money, generousity with his time, I find it hard not to be impressed. It is common knowledge that he gives an enormous portion of his wealth to charity every year, but the stories of personal attention in caring for the needy are far more personal and touching than writing a check to some anonymous organization and leaving it all up to them.

    I have yet to see even a single such story demonstrating Obama's character in such matters. Not one. Take this story for instance:
    Can anyone reading this imagine Obama lending a hand moving furniture to ANYONE at any point after college? I strongly suspect the man would dismiss such things as being beneath him.
     
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    #8416
    Allowing people to earn a living wage is "at the forefront of the economic meltdown and a great part of the problem". Thank you for that opinion. Excuse me if I ignore any mention that you have a clue.

    By not allowing groups of workers to negotiate as a group? How, exactly, does that work. (Remember, it's collective bargaining - workers banding together to ask for raises as a group - that Wisconsin is busting.)

    That's unions. Wisconsin is "taking power from the people" brutha. And that's what you're backing - "Down with the People and Up with the Bosses"!

    They really screwed your head on backwards.
     
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    1.5 MILLION jobs that the Republicans lost for us, gotten back by Obama. Ask those 1.5 million people how they feel about having gotten jobs due to Obama's policies.

    That's 1.5 million stories. Holding someone's hand, forgiving a loan made to a friend, asking a pastor to do what pastors are supposed to do ... that doesn't fix the economy. Causing 1.5 million jobs to be created does.
     
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    Or better phrased we are freeing taxpayers from the ass to mouth human centipede that is government employee unions, their union bosses, and the Democratic politicians who complete the cycle.
     
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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    Oh cry me a river. The only people earning a living wage are the Unions which are stealing wages from hard working folks.

    Looks to me like you've not ignored me at all.

    Allowing? Seriously? What we are doing is giving workers a CHOICE. They did not have one before.

    Workers EARN raises by working hard and giving that extra inch. You do not command a wage by threatening a coercing your employer.

    We've simply put that CHOICE and power back in the hands of the worker; where it belongs.

    Why is it so hard for you to except the notion that hard working folks here in the heartland are capable of making their own decisions?
     
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    #8420
    Talk about a head that is screwed on backwards...

    Drink some more of this:

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