United States Heading towards a Depression?

I'm pissed = I'm drunk.
I'm pissed off = I'm angry.

 

Well there are serious reasons to question Christie besides his appearance. After all the hullabaloo and tough talk he is having a reverse effect on the NJ economy as unemployment is rising and jobs are diminishing: source. On the employment side they had a focused gain in jobs at a casino and lost jobs at a major research center: Net loss in high paying knowledge based jobs that tend to create more jobs around them. Meanwhile the single new casino in Atlantic City is doing poorly and is taking out more debt.

Not good signs with Big Big Governor Christie at all. After all the tough talk, the state economy is going backwards.

 

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These were my favorites as well.

Favorite from Santorum: I thank God that America still has one party that reaches out their hands in love to lift up all of God's children - born and unborn - and says that each of us has dignity and all of us have the right to live the American Dream.

;-)

 

Did you read the article you linked? I'm guessing you didnt, but for a moment, lets pretend your synopsis is both accurate and complete. At 9.8% unemployment, New Jersy would be a full 1% underneath California's unemployment rate. The difference, other than California's higher unemployment rate and Democratic leadership? California has not balanced it's budget. We are going broke running billion dollar deficits on Democrat sponsored "jobs" programs and other entitlements which serve no purpose other than bankrupt the state. All told, Christie's ability to balance the budget and reign in benefits programs with bi-partisan support remains exemplary.

So lets revisit your article and quote a few relevant points you seem to have missed.

The take away? Several obvious points.

1) Every state is seeing an increase in unemployment under the Obama depression.
2) Jersey has a rather large net positive in job growth yet unemployment refuses to go lower
3) Jersey's state and local governments are shedding jobs, contributing to that unemployment number
4) Jersey's labor force participation rate is above the national average, telling us more people in Jersey are working in spite of all the ex-government employees asking for benefits

All told, Jersey is ahead of the curve. When paces like California finally get around to cutting their budget, whether by bankruptcy or by legislation, we will experience a similar bump in our unemployment percentage as jobless people reenter the work force and government employees lose their jobs but continue to feed off of the teet of mother government.

Not bad. I'm not a Santorum fan, but I can appreciate the need for staunch pro-life groups as much as I can appreciate the need for staunch pro-choice groups. If the hard core pro-life folks had their way, we'd go back to Bush era lunacy of bans on stem cell research. If the hard core pro-choice people had their way, we'd be using abortion clinics as late term birth control. I personally like our abortion laws exactly how they are and without a balance of loud voices on both sides of the issue, it would never last

 

Wow.. seriously? You're so confident in your argument you're now attempting to nit-pick my semantics? Oh boy.

Do you know "provide citations" means? Hint: it doesn't mean "carry on posting unsourced opinion".

You're a pillock, you can't even remember what you've said:

So let me get this straight. You claim that by reducing a fraction of ~3% every year (obviously we can't reduce 100% of man's contribution overnight) - which contributes 0.117% (in total as 3%, so this much be even smaller) [source] to the greenhouse effect - you can avoid the problem that is mainly caused by total CO2 levels, ~97% of which we cannot reduce? Dude, what drugs are you on, I want some!

All you're good at is rhetoric. I asked how we're supposed to remove CO2 from the atmosphere and you just say "we'll remove what we cause and by other methods we'll remove natural emissions", so Einstein, what are these "methods"?

Why don't you provide some scientific evidence for once instead of spouting Al Gore's talking points? I'm not even American so your Republican reference is meaningless. Just repeating the same unsourced claims doesn't make you look knowledgeable.

All you've done is claim "You're wrong! Scientists say so! This is how it really is!" where's your damn proof? "It's so common sense I don't need to show you proof" is not evidence, son. I'm tired of looking for sources and articles for you to completely ignore so if you fail to provide anything of substance in your next reference to me, I'm out.

Are you aware that water vapour dwarfs CO2 with regards to the greenhouse effect?

 

So, if I'm in the U.K. and I say "I'm pissed", they'll think I'm saying "I'm drunk"?

BTW, for the record, I haven't watched any of the Republican Convention. I won't watch the Democratic convention either. Both are for motivating the sheeple.

 

That's right

We have other derivations of the word too, such as "a piss up" and "getting pissed". The "off" makes a big difference here, hah.

Usually "pissed" imples being more than just drunk, usually too drunk, or getting there.

 

That would likely do it lol but could you imagine this lot in a karaoke bar?

Are you sure you're not Jewish?

 

Careful now! You'll have a few here rushing in and claiming that you're anti-Semite.

 

LoL, well that's never worried me, they know the Jews (& the Scots) are renowned for being penny-pinchers, surely.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/30/u...blican-vice-presidential-nomination.html?_r=1

Absolutely rocked it last night.

The list goes on and on..

 

@O-nation:



What is it about the republican right wing extremist mentality and its wordsmiths?? No matter what occurs in the history of the world if its bad its obama's fault?

Seriously:

The Mexican's overran the Alamo. Its Obama's fault.
There was a huge earthquake in Chile. Its Obama's fault.
The Titanic sank. Its Obama's fault.

The world's worst modern recession centered in the US and devastated millions with crappy real estate loans, leading to the residential real estate bubble, a decline in real estate values, trillions of lost dollars in residential net worth, a huge slowdown in US business, a crash of financial institutions and a net residential real estate problem the likes of which we have never seen. By far the worst recession in MODERN TIMES.

All of that occurred before Obama was President. The bubble and beginnings of the crash in real estate values all occurred while a GOP President and a GOP Congress were in control.

Ask the right wing about this. Their answer is ....its Obama's fault. Are your shoelaces untied? Its Obama's fault.

Big mouth Chris Christie becomes governor of NJ, gets his legislation passed. Rams everything through the legislature. Takes complete control of the state political process.

Uses his big mouth all the time. He is either stuffing it with food. Or he is telling people he is in control and its his way or the highway.

Christie IS IN CONTROL

Now 2 years later....state unemployment is UP.

Ahhh....the right wing extremists. They love Chris Christie because of his forceful ways and his taking control. But OOOOOOPS. Under Christie things are getting worse!!!!!!!!!!

What do the right wing mouth pieces say??? Its obama's fault. I know, read a right wing history book. The Mayan empire was crushed. Its obama's fault. There was a melt down at the 3 mile Island Nuclear Reactor in 1979. its obama's fault.

What a joke!!!

Irrespective and despite this endless monotonous series of claims by what has to be the mindless extreme right wing, most people disagree with the extreme right wing mouth pieces Unless of course you are extremely rich. the very wealthy and the extreme right wing blame obama--the majority of the rest of the people DON'T

So...o-nation if you spend this weekend with your kids and you happen to take a walk and trip over a twig...I'm sure you'll be preaching to your kids that its Barack Obama's fault.

 

Let me guess, that makes it the GOP's fault?

No, Christie is in charge. Control is a word normally associated with dictatorships.

I appreciate your analysis, as flawed as it is. Like any good piece of propaganda, it has a few kernels of truth peppered heavily with bullshit. Lets talk about the obvious truths your post makes clear.

1) No adminstrator, Obama, Christie, or Bush is 100% in control of the economy. These people simply put, or try to put policies in place to make things better or worse.
2) The person/party in charge gets the blame if things turn out badly, and the credit if things turn out well.
3) You are willing to credit Bush for the bad economy while refusing to credit Obama with the failed recovery.

These facts are all made very clear in your post. And then there is the BS. You doubled down on the idea Christie's New Jersey is economically failing, completely ignoring the other datapoints from the article you yourself linked, which indicate Jersey is doing better than it's Democratically governed counterparts by most measures. The laborforce participation rate is one of my favorite indicators of how many people are actually working, unlike the unemployment rate which is problematic for a variety of reasons. Have you seen this chart?

You also completely ignored the facts from the article from the article you yourself linked, which clearly point out most states are economically suffering under Obama. His adminsitration is the common element. Is it Obama's fault? As the magic eight ball would say, "Signs point to yes". Economy aside, he has been proven to be an ineffective leader by almost every other metric by which we might measure him.

No, I stick with more logical things. Right now, my kids think $100 is quite a bit, so you can imagine how upset it makes them when I tell them about the 16 Trillion dollar debt Obama has already created for them.

Were you ever going to answer the question I put to you earlier, as to why Obama never tackled that very simple loophole being used by hedgefund managers while he had super majorities in both houses of congress?

 

What is it about the democratic left wing extremist mentality and its wordsmiths?? No matter what occurs in the history of the world if its bad its Bush's fault?

 

Temperature readings. What else would you think would be used to indicate the temperature?

If it gets bad enough that it reaches the tipping point (and there's no way to know if it will until it does), we get runaway greenhouse conditions, which will mean the end of human life. (Try living on a planet with an average surface temperature hot enough to boil water. Runaway greenhouse will end up with Earth being hotter than that.)

You're free to risk your life, but you're not free to risk everyone else's life.

 

Neither does "cite". Maybe if you learned to post what you mean ...

I never said "avoid", I said "decrease". Maybe if you learned to understand what others post ...

 

Simple , he plunge the country to a war looking for something that's not there. How much did it cost ? How much did Cheney and co. made. We had more than enough when Clinton turned it over.

 

It's a different form of theism. Instead of "everything good is caused by God and everything bad is caused by Satan", it's now "everything good is caused by the Republicans and everything bad is caused by Obama". Some people have just swallowed the Rethug religion hook, line, sinker, boat, ocean ...

When they hear "reduce taxes" they think "reduce my taxes", not the real statement "reduce the taxes on the 1% and increase them on everyone else". When they hear "cut waste" they think "cut welfare for the bums, cut Medicare for old farts who should just die, etc.", not "cut all my deductions". When they hear "no new taxes" they don't hear "just new onerous 'fees' on anything the wealthy don't use".

It's exactly like a religion in which you don't get to see the actual holy book, you just get to hear the parts the priests want you to hear.

And those who can't think for themselves buy into it.

 

What, because you say so?

What temperature readings? Show me the data. Go ahead, link and show me the raw data. Show me the temperature readings. Link me to ORIGINAL RESEARCH that show the earth's temperature is rising. Show me the numbers.

Don't link to some dweeb saying "the Earth's temperatures are rising". Link to the RAW DATA.

Says who? I think you are making this all up. You say there exists a tipping point, but we don't know what that tipping point is? So how do we know there is a tipping point?

What if the Earth is NATURALLY rising in temperature? Won't we risk a planetary catastrophe by messing with it?

What the fuck does all that mean?