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United States Heading towards a Depression?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by decoyjames, Dec 27, 2007.

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  1. Bushranger

    Bushranger Notable Member

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    What specifically did Obama do that wrecked your (guessing ISP) business?
     
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  2. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #7842
    Nothing has been "wrecked". What has happened is he has driven so many people out of work, many of my customers cannot pay me.

    He's driven so many people out of business that businesses cannot pay me, or have gone under as a result.

    My costs have all gone up as a result.

    Rising Fuel costs, etc., forced us to sell off our wireless unit because the cost of gas for truck rolls no longer made the business viable or profitable.

    Do you really need me to go on? This is just one segment of one industry. I think everyone here can truly appreciate the magnitude of Obama's impact on our economy, health care, taxes, social security and other policies that have driven so many out of work or out of business.

    Obama has been all around bad for business period.
     
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  3. tom.jeraldino

    tom.jeraldino Active Member

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    I'm sure the negative trends are related to practically all countries of the world more or less. It will be understood with time, which of them are gonna make it
     
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  4. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #7844
    Negative trends in Europe are indicative of a calamity that could be averted if Europe would stop trying to prop up Greece. They do so for one reason and one reason only, so that faith in their monopoly money of a currency is not compromised.

    Its time to let Greece fail. I say let Apple Buy them and turn them into an iPod factory. Given Apple's worth more than the entire GDP of Greece, and has more cash on hand than Greece has debt, its probably a good fit.
     
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    Corwin Well-Known Member

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    #7845
    Can't be too difficult to let Greece fail. With a population of about 11 million, it's only half the size of the New York metro area.

    Back in November the Euro climbed as rumors circulated that the EU was considering removing Greece from the EU. I suspect that some powerful people are going to push for that. Europe should just cut Greece loose from the EU.
     
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  6. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    It's not like armageddon will ensue. They will just be consumed by the Union itself. Propping up a government that continues to spend its money on its non-working, non-contributing populous just does not work. Greece has more people on the dole than are working.
     
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  8. Bushranger

    Bushranger Notable Member

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    Nice find and painting. I note it says Bush Jr. doubled Clinton's 5.8 trillion national debt to 11.9 trillion and Obama had only added 1.1 trillion to that making it 13 trillion (& rising). It seems most of the 44 presidents added a fair bit each time but Jefferson reduced it a fair chunk. Madison, who wrote the constitution more than doubled the national debt. Andrew Jackson detested the bankers and became the ONLY president to pay off the debt. Maybe there's a clue as to how to do it. Don't side with bankers.
     
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  9. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    Yah, the artist is clearly no fan of Bush, and for the right reasons IMO, though you'll note he doesn't like Clinton either, for different reasons. He has Clinton applauding as Obama tramples the constitution. I hadn't noticed he only had the debt at 13 Trillion under Obama. That must have been Obama's first year in office. That number is now closer to 16 Trillion. Makes Bush look like a spend thrift.
     
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  10. tom.jeraldino

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    haha, depending on how "hardworking" the Greeks are known to be, Apple won't be satistisfied with its new iPod factory.

    As for the crisis, it's not only about Greece any more, how about Italy, and Portugal, and Ireland? These aren't very flourishing at the moment
     
    tom.jeraldino, Feb 6, 2012 IP
  11. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #7851
    The reason you are seeing problems with Italy and Spain, and other countries you've mentioned above is for the very same reason that Greece is in trouble. And its at the crux problem here in the US.

    The number of people consuming wealth outnumbers the number of people producing wealth.

    Until that problem is solved, no country will survive.
     
    Mia, Feb 6, 2012 IP
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    sunfyre7896 Peon

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    All three are very neat and cool to look at. I liked the one with the soldiers in the presence of Jesus because I've always been fascinated by military history and war history.
     
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    Check it out. Jay Carney, propaganda mouthpiece for the Obama regime, tells us that young college grads leaving the workforce for inability to find a job is a good thing.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...t_young_people_are_leaving_the_workforce.html

    The genius of it all! Here are some interesting charts about our recent dip in the unemployment numbers, bringing us to the glorious Obama recovery at 8.3% unemployment.


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    Notice how the number of people in the workforce adjusted downward by 1.2 million with the release of the new unemployment numbers.

    And here is a chart showing participation in the workforce as a percentage of the working age population. [​IMG]

    Happy days are here again. Its morning in America. It is EXACTLY the span of time from Jimmy Carter to Barack Obama.
     
    Obamanation, Feb 6, 2012 IP
  14. tom.jeraldino

    tom.jeraldino Active Member

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    I agree with what you're saying, undoubtedly, guess, what we can forecast is the collapse of economic systems in many countries in different parts of the world.
     
    tom.jeraldino, Feb 7, 2012 IP
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    Here in Massachusetts, they are about to close three postal facilities.

    HOWEVER, very few of the one thousand employees involved will lose their jobs because, in the words of the postal union rep, "any employee that has been on the job for more than six years can't be let go... this applies to almost all of the workers"
     
    Corwin, Feb 23, 2012 IP
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    I'm sorry to hear that, just awful injustice, if you ask me
     
    tom.jeraldino, Feb 24, 2012 IP
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    That last upturn is really interesting....

     
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    I believe that is a charting anomaly based on census data. Like all numbers of these types, we speculate on the actual rate until census data confirms the assessed rate. In this case, the census confirmed 1.2 million people on the unemployed side, even though 1.2 million people didn't suddenly lose work in December. It still doesn't make it a good thing.
     
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    I agree with you, regarding the impossibility of actual sudden loss of job by so many people. Yet, the tendency is scary, who's gonna feed all those unemployed, and who's gonna take the responsibility to employ them?
     
    tom.jeraldino, Feb 29, 2012 IP
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