United States Heading towards a Depression?

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  1. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    bingo... Stock up on Beer, Ammo and Artillery.
     
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    Corwin Well-Known Member

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    #5462
    Speaking of dysfunctional rhetoric...!

    Because Breeze is full of dysfunctional rhetoric.

    Hey, Breeze - how old are you? What do you do for a living?
     
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    Blue Star Ent. Well-Known Member

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    #5464
    .... or both :)
     
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  5. Breeze Wood

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    You have to give credit where credit is due, Republicans really know their economics.......

    There are countless reasons for devaluing the dollar and at the present is the objective of the Federal Reserve. You know, the people who have culminated the recession from becoming a depression and are supervising the economic recovery that progressively becomes stronger with each passing day.
     
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    Blue Star Ent. Well-Known Member

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    There is no recovery. Constantly proclaiming there is when there isnt... what do you call that Breeze Wood ? When you see the real news proclaim that the dollar buys less gold, do you ( personally ) say the direct opposite Breeze ? Remember, "More Debt Does Not Equal Lesser Debt"... you have not been doing this have you Breeze. Keep saying it until you get it ; "More Debt Does Not Equal Lesser Debt"
     
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  7. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    Don't start talking sanely all the sudden breeze. We like you just how you are.

    Interesting. From this statement we can glean:

    1) You acknowledge the fed controls monetary policy, not a given political party
    2) The fed is devaluing the dollar(by printing more money to pay debts)
    3) In spite of facts one and two, you still want to give credit to the Democrats for any improvement in world markets and credit to the Republicans for the declines
    4) In spite of facts one and two, you still don't understand a devaluing dollar equals inflation
    I do however appreciate that you've taking up reading before posting, Breeze. It has changed your posts from purely unintelligible garbage to semi-coherent hyper-partisan left wing double speak, an improvement by any measure. Now you just need to do a bit more reading so you can get a feel for where we are heading. I'll give you a hint, it was a popular TV show in the 80s....... "Welcome back Carter!"
     
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  8. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    Breeze, there is no good reason to devalue the dollar (for Americans). The devaluation, which is caused by the artificial manipulation of the currency, causes inflation.

    For leftists like yourself, or arabs hell bent on the wests destruction, there is. A lower dollar means a higher price on oil. A lower dollar means a weaker economy and higher interest payments on debt.

    There's nothing good about devaluing the dollar from where I sit. Its the artificial manipulation of our currency, interest rates and banking that are responsible for the mess the people you support have created. All I want is for the government (this means the fed) to leave things alone. Let the market dictate the ebb and flow of things.
     
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    The statements above are from those who's past principles have made the present policies necessary that are mending the economy in an appropriate fashion rather than smoke and mirrors of Republican Voodoo economics.

    Unfunded and unnecessary war while shifting the tax burden to the middle class - as only one of the many egregious errors of the Republican Administration.
    .......

    The Fed is in response to the Liberal agenda that culminated the pub recession.

    Inflation as a result of economic stimulation is not an issue at the present time and will be properly administered without posturing by reactionaries.

    Stimulating the economy and weathering the steps necessary in returning the Treasury to solvency are clearly the reasons for the present policies that are progressively improving the economy to a sound basis necessary for protracted recovery offered by the present liberal Administration.
     
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  10. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    Aside from being a run-on, that makes no sense. Are you using babelfish again?

    No war can go unfunded. Congress has approved the funding since the get go, and continues to do so. The burden shifted to taxpayers in the US is inconsequential when compared to that of the 3 social welfare programs that account for more than 60% of our entire fiscal budget.

    What? babelfish? "The Fed is in response.... " what? WTF are you trying to say? That's not even a complete sentence. Was there supposed to be more to that?

    Inflation is not the cause, its the effect numb nuts. Stop trying to use big words breeze. Instead of making yourself look knowledgeable, you're making an ass of yourself.



    Holy run-on batman! The treasury will never be solvent when it has the power to print more money. You do not stimulate anything by printing currency which is backed by NOTHING. Instead you create more insolvency and inflation.

    Breeze, I used to think you were just ignorant, young and misinformed. Now I'm convinced you're just stupid.
     
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    Breeze, this single quote sums you up perfectly. Mia thinks your poor grammar is an indication that you are some sort of child or learning disabled individual. Others have put forth the proposition that English is not your first language. Whatever it is, it is very entertaining! Your posts are like a puzzle the reader gets to figure out! Sure you have to fill in a lot of blanks and suspend reality for a minute, but isn't that what makes it fun? It is no wonder the Democrats have their heads so firmly lodged up their asses. Look at the thinking of their leaders and constituents! Did I mention Maxine Waters asserted that all US Property titles are "clouded" in an effort to protect homeowners from foreclosure? Its great!

    So lets look at your sentence a bit.
    The fed is in response.... The creation of the Fed? the actions of the Fed? Doesn't it seem like you need a verb instead of a noun there to have something be in response to something else? Given the context of the conversation, I'm going to go out on a limb and guess you were trying to claim the recent actions of the Fed were motivated by the Liberal Agenda. Amiright? Hey Breeze, if that is what you are trying to say, I AGREE! When an administration spends a couple trillion dollars outside of the budget in 18 months, on top of raising the permanent federal budget by the largest amount in history, the Fed prints money to avoid a deflationary spiral! All hail the Democrats!

    Lets see now. According the dictionary, the word culminated is defined as follows:
    So if we are to take your quote literally, you are telling us that the liberal agenda is what caused the recession to peak while a Republicans held the office of President. Again, I think I agree with you. The liberal agenda definitely gave us an unregulated Fannie and Freddie, and they are most definitely at the center of this recession. When you think about it. we had terrorists fly airplanes filled with Americans into the World Trade Center, obliterating a good portion of the nerve center of our financial district, and confidence in the US Airline industry at the same time, and that all did less lasting damage to our economy than the liberal agenda. No, I think you've got this one spot on Breeze. The liberal agenda may be the biggest threat our nation faces today. Thanks for pointing it out.
     
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  12. Breeze Wood

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    The liberals were the last to balance the budget and pay down the deficit at the conclusion of Clinton's 2nd term.

    Bush and the Republicans controlled both chambers of Congress and the Executive after Clinton's term and the balance of payments have not since been balanced.

    The ensuing Republican recession (reached the highest or a climactic or decisive point) at the time of the Obama Administration who's liberal agenda brought its curtailment.

    There is little doubt which party is responsible for the Keynesian economic modeling that is presently being adopted by the Federal Reserve in mitigating the principals, policies and recession of the previous Republican Administration.

    Recovery from recession by stimulating the economy is accomplished by devaluing the dollar that may eventually produce inflation is in itself proof of the positive results that were anticipated.
    ........

    The Republicans left an empty Treasury and have only themselves to blame for the current balance deficit.
     
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  13. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    Yeah, once again you have your facts wrong.

    A Republican majority congress balanced the budget and forced then President Clinton to sign it into law.

    Obamanation... I'm just going with the simple assumption that he's just stupid.

    Your explanation and extrapolation of his sentences was both amusing and educational.

    I'm just convinced its neither a language a barrier or poor grammar. I think hes just stupid. Not dumb.. Stupid.

    The first three definitions most certainly apply given what I have seen here.
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    Notice a difference?
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    Bah ! We dont believe you ! How about that ? LINK and if you are feeling energetic : LINK
     
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    A few days ago when we were talking about buying american cars, such as Chevrolet, you told me that they are less american... is that the same for Cadillac? Honestly, I think GM is more American than anything... my family only drives Chevrolet's, Cadillacs, and GMC's. We have a Chevrolet Avalanche, Cadillac SRX Crossover, and a Cadillac Escalade. Now your telling me that GM Vehicles represent Soviet Values? Why?

    We will NEVER buy a Toyota, and you told me they're more American? I just don't understand why... they are made by the Japanese, where GM is an American company making American Cars. Plus the US just bailed out GM, so I think we WILL continue to buy GM Vehicles.
     
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    Yeah,but can carry two hot cups of coffee and a dozen donuts? The girls I hang with find it very impressive.


    Uh no.

    I think you need to be old enough to work and contribute to have a say. Of course by the time you actually work for a living, you may be of a different opinion on how terrific bailouts are. Then again, by the time you work for a living, we may be a communist nation, so don't worry about it.
     
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    The facts speak for themselves Blue Star, not to mention the complete rout of the Republicans from all aspects of electoral consequence post George Bush.
     
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    And let me guess, you think the same thing will happen after the November elections.

    The Republican strategy is to take control of congress, pass only what they know Obama will veto, blame Obama and tell voters to elect a Republican president in 2012 so they can finally get things done.

    In other words, if the Republicans regain control you can expect a minimum of 2 years of everyone sitting on their hands.
     
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    Many of us wish they had sat on their hands the last two years. I agree with the rest of your post. Unlike Clinton, this president has not made a single sign of moving to the center like Clinton did. Hell, Obama held that public round table (political stunt) to solicit Republican ideas in public as to what they thought should have been in the Healthcare bill and didn't even put in the one thing he agreed with (Investigators into medicare fraud). Obama is still smoking that crack that MSNBC was handing out, thinking the entire nation moved to the left in 2008.
     
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