United States Heading towards a Depression?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by decoyjames, Dec 27, 2007.

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  1. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #4761
    I'd have to agree. Especially when my 7 year old constantly reminds me of my carbon footprint. I was like WTF? It's then I have to explain to him that my 30 year old Vette gets better gas mileage than my new v6 powered pickup.

    Carbon footprint? Ask him who Columbus was and he draws a blank. What a strange twist of fate.
     
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  2. Will.Spencer

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    #4762
    Grrrr... anti-humanists make me very angry. If they hate humans so much, why don't they all just commit suicide?

    That will reduce their damned "carbon footprints"!
     
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  3. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    I've got two kids in private(Catholic) education. I was thinking of entering the oldest into public school to save money now that she is nearly of kindergarten age (4), but the public curriculum states she will be familiar with all her letters by the time she graduates grade K. How do you submit a kid who already knows how to read to 4 hours a day of education on ABCs and global warming? For Christ's sake the two year olds are reading in private school.

    Don't get me wrong, I support public education, but I imagine it is a pretty good model of how our public health care will play out. I'd take vouchers, private education, and standardized testing any day of the week. It was good enough for Bo-Bo.
     
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  4. scotman

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    #4764
    Hey I am glad we cleared that up Mia and Corwin I hate to leave on a sour note.
     
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  5. Breeze Wood

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    #4765

    Without a single Republican vote - what are Republicans afraid of.......aparently their immediate past history for starters.

    Surly next week there will be support from both sides or one might wonder what todays headlines are all about. It is reassuring to know at least a few politicians still have governance in mind rather than the next election and will they win enough votes to recapture Congress.
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    I think they will to be honest.
     
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  7. Breeze Wood

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    #4767
    I do not believe you are entirely alone.

    Unless maybe the Republicans have just now peaked and will fall to overconfidence and / or the exposure of their immediate past will catch up with them, or their past being so bad there still is not enough time before November to catch up to it.
     
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    Well look at the Carter Admin thought to be a failed Presidency? The Republicans held the majorty from there on out. The only way Republicans will not regain the majority is if the Republican voters stay at home. But with the economy being the way it is and if it stays that way, then you will see record numbers showing up at the polling booths.
     
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    Only the Democrats could come up with a bill that creates two new agencies and 16 Billion dollars in costs to regulate consumer lending while exempting Fannie and Freddy, who were at the heart of the crisis, and car dealerships which generate 80% of all auto loans. If you had watched CSPAN's live broadcast of that committee meeting like I did, you would have seen Chris Dodd, fighting vigorously for the creation of these new government entities, and equally hard at preventing commercial banks from being subject to regulation that would prevent them from playing the derivatives market. This legislation could be the greatest thing since sliced bread (which it is not) and you'd still have to look at it with an eye of suspicion when its champion is the runner up embezzlement king in congress today.

    I'm glad to see you are looking forward to the mid-terms. So am I.
     
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    The more I think of it the more I get ticked off but hell whats another 16 billion added to already mammoth debt we have incurred? That is why I quit watching the news. I could not take all the rampant spending being reported. We all know who is going to be flipping the bill for all these failed programs and it will be the taxpayer...just like the taxpayer will be bailing out SS when that fails. So lets expand the Government even more and put the majority at the mercy of a few bobble heads.
     
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  11. Will.Spencer

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    #4771
    The Federal Debt is the biggest bubble yet... and unlike Greece there's no one who is going to step up and help the U.S. out.
     
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    Me and my three brothers were in grade school spanning the 1960's through the 1980's. The curriculum was essentially unchanged - we were taught about George Washington, and Columbus, and MacArthur, and other leaders of our nation. We were taught about leaders, so that we could think like leaders.

    The curriculum of the 1990's to today, is significantly different. Today's kids are being taught about the people of American, the people of Europe... leaders are being quickly passed over. They are taught to be followers, to be mindless drones. Obey, obey, and pay no attention to that man behind the curtain...

    Like my family is doing, responsible parents of today need to supplement their child's education with some home education.
     
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    I think your right on with those remarks Corwin. They are being taught if you don't agree with someone then you are not a team player. Then turning around and putting those trouble maker kids at odds with the majority (sheep) of the class. Got to love liberal teachers. I hear my nephew telling me all about what it means to be a team player it is like he is brainwashed.
     
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    #4774

    Someone or thing seems to have turned off the neuron receptors for a certain class of people that now permits their exhibitions of self awareness to be dimensionless events, void of causal facts - i.e. such as election results and their actual (real) meanings.
     
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    Breeze, its impressive to watch you respond to a few comments about the tripe being taught in our schools with a line about election consequences. Public schools suffer from the same brand of unionized group think that our mainstream media does. It has almost nothing to do with elections(at least not national elections).

    Take this letter for instance. It is signed by 87 of our sitting senators, meaning 47 Democrats and 40 Republicans. In case you decide not to read it, it is a letter of strong support for Israel's actions in the enforcement of their legal blockade. There is a similar letter circulating the house right now with more than 300 signatures on it. If you Google the letter, or any of the keywords surrounding it, you won't find it in the Mainstream media. Nobody in the Mainstream media decided the strong support of the US government for Israel was news worthy. The news agencies didn't get on a conference call and decide not to present the letter. They didn't get a call from Obama saying not to publish any story about the letter.

    My guess is that, of the people in America who buy the BS coming from Palestine, many of them occupy jobs in news organizations. Perhaps the rest occupy jobs in Academia? Our teachers and newsmen work very hard at distributing their brand of truth and reality. Get smart.
     
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  16. Will.Spencer

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    Exactly. The socialists feel that the Great Man Theory focuses too much on "individual" achievement and since individuals are valueless and only the group matters, children must be indoctrinated into worshiping People's History theories.

    Unfortunately, the effects are exactly as you state. Instead of creating strong healthy individuals, we have created generations of drones who are so damaged by Xenocentrism that they don't have the self-esteem necessary to succeed in the competitive world Multiculturalism is used as a hammer to beat down any attempts to define right and wrong or to make the world a better place -- because our children are taught that there is no acceptable standard of "better."

    Black children are taught that they should not bother to try to succeed, because the white man is keeping them down. White children are taught that that should not try to succeed because to do so would be unfair to blacks. In a nation which should be color-blind, racism is indoctrinated into our children from their first year in school.

    Public school is a hazard to any child's education.
     
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    Could not agree more.
     
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  18. Breeze Wood

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    Present public education that has evolved through the electoral process as an open forum is exactly what they are talking about and its barriers against colloquial biases.

    If one might recall "busing" the means of integrating public schools as one of the roots for present reforms (discontent) their arguments are correct for their personal and immediate concerns but for the needs of the country as a whole the reforms are necessary when including all recipients as a goal than limited to a like minded few......the barriers against inclusion are the most difficult to overcome.

    Not sure what the connection between Education, teachers and Israels navel incursion is but am all for the letter.....The Israelis are placed geographically at the least possible advantage per their persona and definitely in regards to their religious hypocrisy.
     
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    Wonderful! Inclusion Diversity! I think that's a great idea. Considering almost 90% of our public educators are hardcore liberals, 70% of whom belong to teachers unions who contribute 99% of their donations to the Democratic party, I think it is high time we got some diversity in our schools! I really like your example of "busing in" people to create diversity! It certainly helped the African American population in America. Considering that 50% of our nation identifies as conservative, while only 20% identifies as liberal, we have a REAL problem of political apartheid going on in our public schools. Thanks for pointing it out. What do you recommend? Should we start laying off self identified liberals and hiring conservatives to meet quotas? Perhaps bus in more conservative teachers from the burbs to teach in inner city schools? What do you recommend we do to solve these problems of integration, reform, and inclusion? I'm all ears!

    My point wasn't about Israel at all. It was about Media coverage in America. Your comments demonstrate nicely the attitude of the wanna be Mussolinis working in our press corps. 87% of our Senate supported Israels actions in the floatilla incident. 87%!!!! The press, made up mostly of the same type of people we have in public education, didn't find that story news worthy, likely because it disagreed with their extreme leftist agenda.

    Let me spell it out for you in small words. Whether its the news we see, or the history taught in our classrooms, facts are less important than political ideology when you have a heterogeneous pack of ideologues running the show. The news doesn't concern me as much, because the internet facilitates the free flow of information. On the other hand, having my children indoctrinated by a pack of leftists for 13 years straight, 8 hours a day, is entirely unacceptable.
     
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    Which is the intended effect.

    Children learn by imitation and early experiences - it's called "imprinting". Teach children about leaders and they become leaders. Teach children about followers and they become molded to be followers. It's that simple.

    If you take a look at the K through 12 curriculum of the elite private schools, you'll see that what they teach children is significantly different. These children are taught about leaders, and the English they are taught is the language of leadership. These curriculums aren't expensive to teach - that's not why these schools cost so much.
     
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