Understanding Ebay/CJ profits

Discussion in 'Commission Junction' started by bitsy, Jan 18, 2008.

  1. #1
    I need a little help understanding the profit with Ebay/CJ. For a while I thought you recieved 50% the sale price-I figured out that is not the case
    :(. So my question is,do the majority of you with success earn big profits from new user sign-ups or threw the split of Ebay fees? I bought BANs and have had a few sales but with tiny profits,so those are from the fees. Is anyone willing to share thier average sale/profit (ball park)from fees. Only reason I ask is that I don't want to waste alot of time working on these sites for like $.50 a week in fee comms. Or is the goal to find a niche' without alot of existing Ebay members,and try to have them sign up and bid? Any advice would be great.
     
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  2. squeezeplaycards

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    I'll say this, that my commissions are normally more than a dollar. The signups provide the big boost but i am only getting one of those for about every hundred sales.
     
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    In my experience for an ebay affiliate business to work you need a battery of websites because the commissions are low.

    I know people chirp on about sign ups, but in my experience you don't get that many, others may beg to differ.

    If you have a main site with thousands of backlinks doing well in the SERPS then there are better payouts on more targeted items.

    For me, when I was doing BANS stores, I used an oldish domain, did some article and directory submissions and then left them to mature.

    I just don't think the web user will take your sie that seriously if you have ebay auctions pooping out from your site. You want them to click through to ebay and buy something. Thats it.
     
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  4. Kerosene

    Kerosene Alpha & Omega™ Staff

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    Exactamundo.

    Most of my eBay income comes from sales, not from ACRUs. It's all about getting traffic and dropping the cookie. Without traffic, and without people clicking your auctions, then you're going nowhere. Personally I think the secret is to hit niches that you know something about. My sites get traffic because I've got product pages that have no competition in the search engines - my niches are about nerdy little hobbies that the big boys don't care about. And even if my visitors don't end up buying what I'm pushing, they click an auction, get my cookie, and then their mums get on the computer and buy some curtains :p

    To quote myself (wow what an ego!):
     
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  5. bitsy

    bitsy Active Member

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    Thanks for the thoughts so far,still would like to hear more. If that is the main goal then I should do ok. This is my first site with BANs,a week old,traffic from forum posting,kinda obscure niche. With less than 50 visits a day now,the average ebay click rate is over 50%. Like I said before have some sales,but comms of like $.50 or less. The average product I'm pushing is between $20-$200 so perhaps those should be better in the future. If it is a cookie game,then game on!
     
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    Kerosene Alpha & Omega™ Staff

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    Give it some time to get indexed and get some search engine traffic. While you're waiting... go build some more BANS stores :D
     
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    If you do the math, a $25 sale on ebay pays, at a minimum, about 3%. Of course, this % will vary depending the final sales price and the type of item. Those ACRUs are great, but they are few and far between. Your bread and butter is auction sales. Some days you make 20 cents other days you make $20 dollars. Think of the ACRUs as a bonus.

    As a fellow noobie, its hard not to spend all of your money on advertising. Be careful. Kerosene's advice is always good. Build your site, get content, get indexed, and be patient. Then build another site and another.
     
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    Thanks I fell better now about the BANs purchase. I cant see advertising for this yet,as the profits appear so small. Hopefully I get some bigger ones soon to change my oppionion. The site is already indexed in Google and Yahoo with out me submitting it. It must have picked up the links in my sig at the niche' forums I've been posting on,so thats cool. I try to only pick up keyword domains for my sites(I'm lazy at doing SEO)and work around the domain. Only bummer is their all new reg's and sometimes that hurts for awhile. I've tried giving Rep where do,but not working,so thanks.
     
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    Also do some social bookmarking for immediate traffic and to help get better SEO results.
     
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    I made a decent sale the other day(<$4.50). So now I can see the potential profit. I may consider Adwords in the near future. Thanks for all the advice and help understanding comms.
     
    bitsy, Jan 21, 2008 IP
  11. Kerosene

    Kerosene Alpha & Omega™ Staff

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    Exactly. Some days your visitors will buy big ticket items, other days they'll buy hatpins and shoe laces.

    My eBay sales have been pathetic for January. I've checked my stats, and the number of sales has increased - it's just that people are buying cheaper items.
     
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    I have another Q off topic. I have some SE visitors come to my site through results I rank for like this example- "Niche Dodads at Ebay". No where on my site did I use "Ebay" in meta,description, or content,so I assume the bots are picking up the Ebay descriptions them selfs. My Q is I know Ebay is really picky about the use of their name when it comes to how the traffic is sent. Do you think this may be a problem?
     
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  13. Kerosene

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    As far as I know, eBay are only picky about their name being used in URLs (before the third slash or whatever their rule is...).

    What other rules are there?
     
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    I'm certain they have issues with running CPC ads such as "used cars on ebay" or anything with Ebay in it. So it seems very similar except it is not intentional. I'm not sure how in depth they are able to track how visits originate,but they are a very Tech company.
     
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    I would look for a YSM coupon and start there. AdWords is a beast, and will eat up your cash quick. With YSM, you can start with .10 keywords and ride with a low limit on per day spending.

    hanji
     
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    I would like to second that! Kerosene definitely knows what he's doing.

    hanji
     
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