http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/02/06/gaza.un.aid/index.html And once again Hamas is showing it's true colors. Where are those people who claimed Hamas are freedom fighters that are fighting for the Palestinian people? Maybe imad would like to share his insights regarding this? hell, maybe this is a conspiracy theory and Israel is hiding and stealing the food! This is pathetic, truly pathetic.
i see. so you only nitpick what the UN says when it suits israel when it is anything else you say the UN is a joke and is not a source you are a joke my friend
As far as I know the whole issue was misunderstanding because the use of non-UN trucks which caused Hamas to feel that UN was distributing these goods unfairly, once the misunderstanding was clear, the goods were returned to UN, it is a good thing they returned them which shows they did not plan to distribute them on themselves else they would have been gone already, unlike Israel who did not return what they stole so far because they built so many settlements, in a clear sign they have no intention to return what they stole. what is really pathetic is that you are trying to use this incident to make Israel look good? do you compare stealing rice and flour with stealing a whole country and expelling it's people? and where are the conspiracy theories you are talking about? Zionism collaboration with Nazi ( if that what you meant ) is a fact that been proven and that is documented. this reminds me with that Al-Arabiya video you posted, in which you also tried to say Hamas fired a rocket from under a media building when in fact it was an Israeli attack as Reuters and other media networks who been in the same building said, nothing surprising here.. same old tactics.
El Mufti (Yasser Arafat's father's brother) and Adolf Hitler confer on the "final solution" to the "Jewish Problem", in Berlin, November 21, 1941 Nazis and Islam: Hitler + Palestinian Mufti Amin al-Husseini http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nd1dmD1Fry4&feature=related
It is pathetic how many Muslims are willing to throw their Palestinian brothers under the bus as long as Hamas keeps trying to kill Jews. Hamas is simply a group of thugs who will happily terrorize Israelis and Palestinians in the name of Allah. Hamas will steal from their own people (repeatedly they have done so and been caught), they will risk lives of women and children, they commit murders of their political rivals, they lie to the world - and yet, as evidenced on DP daily, there are idiots who still support them. The only reason to support corrupt terrorist scum like Hamas is because you agree with their goal of destroying Israel with violence. Hamas does nothing but push the Palestinian goal of statehood farther and farther away. If the Palestinians and their supporters want to support keeping Hamas in power, then they are proclaiming to the world that Palestinians do not deserve a state. Hamas and all who support them should be treated as the terrorists that they are. Thankfully every country that matters holds that same view.
If they want to steal, they would not look to steal flour and rice, they would have surrendered and thrown their people under occupation and Goldstein-like terrorists, and tanks and got aid (bribe) money from maybe US and Israel and possibly others, but they did not "sell" of course the illegal state of Israel and it's terrorism supporters will see anybody who resist occupation as a terrorist this is not new. Palestinians have been thrown under tanks, by Israel since long before Hamas, that's why there is Hamas now and others who decided to hold arms against Israeli terrorism and occupation.
If you are happy to watch the Palestinians suffer keep up your support of Hamas. Most people want to see the Palestinians living in freedom, in their own state, at peace with their neighbors. When the Muslim world supporting Hamas decides helping Palestinians is more important than killing Jews, the Palestinians might just get what they deserve. It is a shame that it is the actions of fellow Muslims that keep the Palestinians as refugee pawns.
Most people want to see Palestinians living in freedom except Israel, else they would have ended their illegal occupation long before hamas been established, Hamas is just the current excuse for the illegal state of Israel to continue it's occupation and all what come with it of crimes and terrorism. The Muslim world is supporting Palestinians, not one group of Palestinians, and they have done a lot to help them, what is shame is to try to justify Israeli crimes and terrorism.
Aren't Palestinians as responsible as their leader al-Hajj Amin Hussieni who collaborated with the Nazis during WW II? below: Documented - Stern offer to cooperate with Nazis: 51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis (Hardcover) Speech delivered by Rabbi Aharon Cohen of Neturei Karta Izaak Greenbaum -- head of Jewish Agency Rescue Committee February 18, 1943 Addressed to the Zionist Executive Council. ....Izaak Greenbaum Ben Gurion informed a meeting of Labor Zionists in Great Britain in 1938: Ibid., p.149. source
Imad I have pointed out the SternGang many times on my dp posts. This is the same exact reason why there isnt any justice in palestine. We have many ignorant people that are closing their eyes to the settlements among many other things. Hamas is probably corrupt just as the plo was but who else is hearing teh cry of the palestinian people while the israeli government is just settlementing their property away from them while the whole world is just watching silently and our government just occasionally giving them a slightly lukewarmish-harsh word or 2? If we are to ever achieve peace we must first achieve fairness on both sides dont you think guys?
Apparently a lot of people met Hitler for a "Final Solution" to the Jewish problem. Pot calling the kettle black. As for the Hajj Amin El-Husseini polemic, this has been refuted here.
How fortunate we are that nobody in the Muslim World (except for the collaborationists Fatah and their allies) support the bigoted view that you just spewed above.
And lets not forget about good old General EisenHower. Some say that more German soldiers died after the war than during it. There are some logistical records that say the numbers might have been as high as 3 million German dead after the end of WWII. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eisenhower_and_German_POWs And lets not forget (sorry no link ) about the connection between German Banks and the Amercian banks. It all gets highly confusing as to who is on whoose side. SOme might say that some very rich people played both the German and US sides in WWII Now back to Hamas Question 2 Logically, and I too can read the newspapers that show Hamas unloading the rice trucks. Logically why to the residents of Gaza defend Hamas. If the food was stolen then surly they would rat out who they were. But they dont. Now since we dont see scenes like Rwanda and Liberia with mutilated limbs and chopped off torture victims of Palestinians, clearly it is not fear that prevents the resident retribution against Hamas. I suspect that they are regarded as heros? I dont know the answer? Perphaps somone from Gaza bless them, could tell us if Hamas is considered good or bad in the community. No one else on DP is qualified to answer that, as we aint there.
Great points, should be enough to shut-up all those who are trying to prove that hamas is just doing this for the sake of money and power
Can't you fools find someone to quote other than crackpots? The quote below is from your source link. How sad you still quote it. Bacque's claim has since been attacked by historians as an inaccurate conspiracy theory wrong in nearly every regard, based largely upon spectacularly flawed statistical analyses. A book-length disputation of Bacque's work, titled Eisenhower and the German POWs, appeared in 1992, featuring essays by British, American, and German historians.
I don't believe that Ike starved 1 million German POWs. The Germans did suffer though. The Russians massed raped all the way to Berlin. Approx 1 million Germans died in ethnic cleansing in the East and 50% of German POWs died in Soviet captivity. That's not to mention what happened to the ethnic German population that was deported to Soviet Gulags. The Palestinians have suffered but they continue on a course of violence that only leads to more suffering. The Palestinians were better off in 1947, 1967 and in 1992 when Burak offered 90% of the West Bank and Gaza to the Palestinians. El Mufti did more than meet Hitler. He commanded a SS Division. EWl Mufti was also a wanted war crimminal that escaped with the help of Odessa.
Palestinians were better of of course before the establishment of the illegal state of Israel, they were then living on their own land, in their own houses which been stolen and later they been distributed on many countries and living in refugee camps, and this was after so many of them been massacred and killed, the Zionists did not spare even children and women, as the link in my signature shows, and this is just one example which made Einstein warn from the coming danger of this illegal entity, and obviously he was 100% right, because nothing have changed on this ideology behind these crimes, what changed were the ways to hide such horribleness, and the tools to commit them. Israel for long been wearing the sheep clothes, while their paws are tearing the Palestinian body since long. The Ehud Barack's offer you referred to, (which as you say offered Palestinian 90% of West Bank and Gaza) is exactly like the prison, where the prisoners have 90% of the land, for their cells, yard, restaurant, and maybe library..etc while the prison administration keeps that 10% or even 5% and hold the keys, are the prisoners free here? here is Ehud Barack's offer when you look more behind what your propagandist media tells: This is West Bank and Gaza and I assume you know now how Israel withdraw from Gaza, and kept telling the world (but we withdraw from Gaza in 2005!) without telling that they kept the doors locked, by controlling all ports, sky, and sea ports. this is the settlements colored in black, and note that these are not all the settlements, these are only the settlements they want to keep. now the settlements which they want to keep appear in white, the new areas in black are "Temporary" Israeli control, do you see where these settlements and "temporary" control areas are located? temporary can be 1 month or 1000 years, the did not say how long, so in other words Barack's offer was nothing except offering Palestinians to be in prison for a period decided by Israel and for no guilt they committed except practicing their right in fighting for their freedom, as all now-free nations did in the past, No thanks is what they say, we will keep on fighting. source for the above maps: The Reality of Barak's "Generous" Offers