UN Fact-Finding Mission Says Israelis "Executed" Flotilla Activists

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  1. ApocalypseXL

    ApocalypseXL Notable Member

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    #21
    Yes questioning the definition of word . The best logic in the world . Used by nutjobs and bull eaters . Add some insults in the recipe and you've got another gargling "Islam is perfect/Jews ,US ,EU is Satan" post .
     
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    #22
    What stupid post... Seriously, from day one I noticed your posts I knew how much waste of time you are...

    What definition of word you are talking about?!? Are you retarded or what?!?
    Terrorist are individuals who commit terrorist acts. Period. YOu can't simply label everyone around with that word. Show me single evidence that muredred guy was terrorist!

    Another idiotizm... I said anything about Islam in this thread? US? EU? Are you blind? Seriously, can you quote where did I said anything about Islam,US or EU in this thread?!?
     
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    #23
    You forgot the jews numnutz
     
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    #24
    Well, I rest my case. You are indeed waste of time. Some day you may be ready to talk about facts. Probably when you grow up. :)

    JFYI Israelis who murdered Dogan were jews so it would be hard to say anything in this thread and not to talk about them. Rgiht? :)
     
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    #25
    Would it be so hard to keep a cool unbiased head when you're posting ? I think not .

    Nevertheless you chose to distort facts and post them the way you'd want them to be . The fact is the ships entered a blockade restricted area . When you enter controlled or claimed waters you have to comply to the rules .

    Fighting back makes you a hostile entity . The label isn't gonna change anything . Especially the fact that people died .
     
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    #26
    LOL. too stupid to be true!! you want an animated gif on that document?
    There were many terrorists on board, some had to go and meet Allah (as they wishes for in advance, and documented themselves wishing for it), because they put IDF soldiers' lives in danger.

    no. you talk about "jewish shooters and non-jewish victims" in your narrow hate filled and bigoted mind. This is not a war of religion. there were jews on that ship and there are non-jewish IDF soldiers. grow up moron.
     
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    #27
    What, you've never gone to call someone "assh*le" and the word "Jew" popped out? Somehow, I find that unlikely.
     
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    #28
    I hope you aren't suggesting that Jews are akin to "assh*le", or people will start making a lot of noise.
     
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    #29
    So... how come Dogan was terrorist?

    Again, how come they were terrorists? Which terrorist acts they were commited? Do you actually know what is terrorism?
    Are you idiot or something?

    Btw the fact that they wished do meet Allah still doesn't make them terrorists at all. It's something that narrow mineded hate filled bigot racist like you are can+'t undestand.

    Actually your mind is filled with hate. You are one of biggest bigots around here. You don't care about facts at all. Anything coming from Israeli officials is 100% proven fact for you and everything else is a lie. You can't be much narrowed than that.
    Most of the times you use no logic at all and all you do repeat like a parrot what comes from your officials.
     
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    #30
    I was going to say the same thing about ChaosTrivia (aka Moshe Dubman) but it seems that you have beaten me to it. BTW Moshe, getting your site coded in ASP is not really a good idea, ASP is very weak in security and easily hackable. Just a friendly advice.
     
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    #31
    C'mon Menji hack it. Let's have a friendly contest of how much TBs can the extremist pay for .
     
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    #32
    Already told you many times that I am not "Menj". I have a name. Use it!
     
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    #33
    Menj, I find your ignorance entertaining enough that I'm willing to take the time to explain simple concepts to you. Here I was pointing out how one might make a typo by what they consider to be a similar or related word. For instance, the video was obviously from China, and when I posted mentioning the foreign language used in the video, I replaced Chinese with another foreign language(a more common foreign language where I'm from). Knowing your dislike for Jews, I tried to put this explanation into something that is likely an everyday occurrence for you, when you use profanity. From your reply, I can see you completely failed to pick up on these very basic concepts, so I thought I'd spell them out for you in black and white. As a courtesy, I'll try and dumb down my posts for you in the future. It should avoid the necessity for such lengthy explanations. Hope this helps.
     
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    #34
    An excellent report by Glenn Greenwald.

    U.N. Report finds Israel "summarily executed" U.S. citizen on flotilla - http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/10/01/flotilla/index.html

    Last week, the Office of the U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights released a comprehensive report detailing its findings regarding the May, 2010, Israeli attack on the six-ship flotilla attempting to deliver humanitarian aid to Israel-blockaded Gaza. The report has been largely ignored in the American media despite the fact (or, more accurately: because) it found that much of the Israeli force used "was unnecessary, disproportionate, excessive and inappropriate and resulted in the wholly avoidable killing and maiming of a large number of civilian passengers"; that "at least six of the killings can be characterized as extra-legal, arbitrary and summary executions"; and that Israel violated numerous international human rights conventions, including the Fourth Geneva Conventions (see p. 38, para. 172).

    Even more striking in terms of U.S. media and government silence on this report is the fact that one of the victims of the worst Israeli violations was a 19-year-old American citizen. As Gareth Porter documents in an excellent article at The Huffington Post, the report "shows conclusively, for the first time, that US citizen Furkan Dogan and five Turkish citizens were murdered execution-style by Israeli commandos." In particular:

     
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    #35
    Just wait until chaostrivia comes with a story how that kid deserved that. I give him max 10 hours to that.
    His logic is: if IDF muredered him he DESERVED that!
     
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    #36
    Can someone link the report ? I'd like to have a look at it .
     
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    #38
    Ohchr.org didn't sounded like an official UN site to me :p . That's why i didn't even bothered .
     
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    #39
    I swear I will not read any more UN reports . I've got more laws buzzing in my head then ever before . Anyway the situation can be summarized like this .

    The passengers prepared to fight the Israeli forces . The vessel ignored the radio warnings thereby classifying itself as a hostile entity . Under applicable international law the Israeli Navy attempted to intercept the threat . The passenger of the ship engaged in combat whit the Israeli soldiers . In the occurring fight some of the weapon used where firing live ammunition . And some passengers where shot dead . That's what the report says . The report doesn't use the term executed.

    The fight was a survival of the fittest . A soldiers basic instinct it's to defend himself . When you're discharging live ammo it's clear that people will die . As for the close proximity wound that's usually done when a soldier evaluates that the enemy combatant can't be neutralized by other means except death given the situation I'm surprised that they didn't shot dead the entire enemy force .

    Sorry guys but this round goes to the Israelis . They even had the right to obliterate those ships . Believe it or not what they did can be classified as humane . As strange as that might sound .
     
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    #40
    Well when you look at it in reality ALL rounds goes to Israelis simply because US watch their back and no matter what they do they will never had any cosenquences for it. Can you imagine,just for example, economic sanctions against Israel? I can't no matter what they do.

    Second, where from coming that blood lust? I don't undestand that at all. All of you Israelie supporter would be happy ih they killed all people on that ship and that's something that I simply can't understand. Why? What those people did to deserve to die? They doing something to fianlly stop Israeli crimes?

    You mentioning international laws and that's funny because Israel breaks every single international law that he doesn't like it. Settlements are example. Peace talk is ongoing process for decades but all that time settlement kept growing and growing to the point when they grown so big that they simply can't be removed and that was whole point of it.

    The fight wasn't survival of fittest. If that was a case we would see some dead Israeli soldiers but we didn't. Why? If those were terrorist (as chaostrivia trying to convince us) I am sure we would have dead Israeli soldiers. I already asked all israeli supporters on DP same questions but noone was capable to give logical answer why there wasn't dead Israeli soldeirs. Remember, there was and is and will be very violent protests around the world but goal of protestors isn't killing anyone.

    Why we didn't saw all material from ship? If Israelis have nothing to hide we would already saw it and not only fractions that fits into official Israeli story.

    There's more questions in that unfortunate event than answers and,based on history of how Israelis handles such events, we would never heard true story.
     
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