Ultimate proof that Adsense program is not serious

Discussion in 'Guidelines / Compliance' started by HopHop, Dec 17, 2005.

  1. #1
    Since i joined this program until i got this email from them, i never clicked on the ads, i never did something wrong , i always checked this website for guidelines not to break TOS , and things like this . Plus , there were days when my website gave 600+ impressions to google and to it`s advertisers and revenue was less than $15.

    Above all this they knocked me out from the system with this lame excuse.

    Your AdSense account was found to be related to an account previously
    disabled for invalid click activity and we have therefore disabled your
    account. Publishers disabled for invalid click activity are not allowed
    further participation in AdSense and do not receive any further
    payment. The earnings on your account will be properly returned to the
    affected advertisers.

    As outlined in our program Terms and Conditions, Google reserves the
    right to terminate any publisher's participation at any time.


    And the revenue for last month was $1000 (i "think" those money will be "properly returned to the affected advertisers" ... no comment about this :mad: ) ....

    I feel like when a thief stole my pocket , i catch him and he lies me that he did not stole my pocket.

    Conclusion :
    1) Google gave more attention to Advertisers instead of Publishers. Come on... we give to those guys good and targeted traffic and they give us $0.001/click ... not speaking about the fact that you need to become an expert in optimization for payed words and spend hours upgrading your website for good words, SEO , etc)
    2) Even if you play by Adsense TOS you loose.
    3) Have always alternatives in your pocket (adbrite, chitika) . Google might slap you in the face anytime.




    So ... Publishers ... send valuable clicks through google and hope that you`ll be paid.
     
    HopHop, Dec 17, 2005 IP
  2. tesla

    tesla Notable Member

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    #2
    Could I take a look at your site? Can you post your url?

    When building your site, you're saying that you didn't do anything unusual to give Google the impression that you were violating TOS?

    If you were bringing in good money for Google, I don't see what they would get out of dropping you. I've seen several people start threads on this sort of thing.

    There are other payperclick alternatives such as yahoo, so I would just go with them if you are being totally honest and didn't do anything wrong.
     
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  3. fryman

    fryman Kiss my rep

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  4. Skinny

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    Well did you or didn't you have an account that was related to an account previously disabled for invalid click activity?

    Yes because cheaters undermine the system by clicking on ads. When they do advertisers want to pay less, because their marketing is inneffective.

    And publishers get hit. But this happens with ever ad-company. It's lose-lose.

    Now you know why Google is such a b*tch when it comes to scammers clicking ads and IMO they should be.

    Skinny
     
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  5. HopHop

    HopHop Peon

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    I`m sorry, i would like to post the URL, but i don`t want to break the TOS of the alternative.

    The fact is (and this ideea just hit me now) that adsense might kicked me out because i stopped to show ads for one month and went to other ppc system to check revenue .... and adsense account went to 0.01$/day from $15-$20.
    This is the only "logical" explanation i have .


    Belive me , i`m honest , i don`t have any reason to lie. My account is closed and i cannot do anything about this. I just want to share my thoughts with you about this .
     
    HopHop, Dec 17, 2005 IP
  6. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    Sounds like a shady program to me. Their TOS state you can't tell anyone about your site?
     
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  7. HopHop

    HopHop Peon

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    Skinny :
    First of all : i`m not a 16 years old kid with no brains .
    I never undermided google and i will never undermine them
    Do you really belive that i would write here if the account was 'dirty' ?


    "they give us $0.001/click" ... us = us the publishers like you , me, and many others


    " i never clicked on the ads, i never did something wrong " .... yes . this means i never broke the TOS. and my website never did invalid clicks. more than that i never did any click on the ads of my website. not even by mistake.


    btw: i might have grammar mistakes in this discussion . my main language is not english, so please excuse me
     
    HopHop, Dec 17, 2005 IP
  8. relevance4u

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    hmmm... the exact same thing happened to me 2 months ago on my weblog... I should have implemented that ip-based traffic filter earlier ... :mad:

    anyway - with YPN coming up there's a nice alternative - apart from programs like chitika, clicksor, etc... (which all don't pay so much)
     
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  9. HopHop

    HopHop Peon

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    Digitalpoint, i`m sorry, but i`m a little retained in giving the url right now on a such populated forum. If you want i can PM it to you or to who will ask.
     
    HopHop, Dec 17, 2005 IP
  10. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    I don't want it... just saying whatever program it is must be pretty shady if their terms of service don't allow you to disclose the URL of your own site.
     
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  11. HopHop

    HopHop Peon

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    I`m not sure if this is against their TOS. But it`s better not to make something if you are not compleetly shure about it .. specially when it comes to things like this.

    BTW .. they are Yahoo , it`s or it`s not against the TOS ?
     
    HopHop, Dec 17, 2005 IP
  12. Johnburk

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    It would be strange it "promoting your site" would be againt the TOS.

    I belive advertisers love sites that are promoted well and get a lot of visitors.

    So I think it is save to post your URL.
     
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  13. aeiouy

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    You said some days you gave them 600 impressions. You did $1000 in one month?

    That is over $55 per 1000 impressions. Some amazing return you got there. By the way at $.01 per click you would have had to have a CTR of 550%.

    So for every visitor to your site, each one of them had to click 5.5 times on your ads. If you made a very healthy 30 cents per click, you would have had a CTR of 18.5%.

    Regardless I just did that for fun. It said you got kicked out for being associated with a banned account. Obviously they have some link to you and another banned adsense account. You might be wise to try and uncover that link somehow. Not like they hired a PI to investigate you, it was likely something pretty basic.
     
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    #14
    Yahoo is only for US based sites (or at least they only pay on US clicks) and you have an account as a Google banned, English as a second language person?? Are you sure they know who and where you are? If so, watch your TOS's.
     
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  15. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #15
    You're providing doubts but no proof of anything than your own irresponsibilities.
     
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    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    I guess you must have missed the bit about how you had been previously banned from AdSense?

     
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  18. relixx

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    Hophop....
     

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  19. Sem-Advance

    Sem-Advance Notable Member

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    Probably the same thing Google said to themselves when they found you had applied for a second account after being caught and banned already once....just like cops who catch the same crook time after time

    They in most all likelihood do pay more attention to Advertisers as without them there would be no need for you the Publisher.....


    Generalization that is not true....

    This goes without saying...never place all your eggs in one basket

    Google would be stupid not to pay their publishers...just as they would be stupid to not monitor their program and demand compliance...

    Ohh and lest anyone forget.....Yahoo will put the boot to your ass if your violating their TOS too :D

    <----sees the day coming when Banned By Adsense is replaced with Banned By YPN.......
     
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  20. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    Did you have a point in resurrecting a 9-month old thread, Sem-Advance?
     
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