UK Riots (UK breaks into riots 2011)

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  1. shiva0077

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    #41
    uk riots are unfortunate.
     
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  2. The Webby

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    #42
    Uhh, they are just pity thieves, that's what they are, not some Robbin Hood. A Guy running a local shop is not exactly 'rich', and it has nothing to do with capitalism.
    If anyone is poor it's not because of anyone else, they themselves are to be blamed.. Most of the 'poor' people are uneducated, unskilled, lazy morons, leeching or always looking for a way to leech tax payers.

    I don't think racism has anything to do with it.. Forgive me, I'm shoving political correctness in rat's ass here but some of the black people are pretty racist themselves.

    As far as I understand it went something like this - Police went to arrest a suspected Drug peddler, the suspect allegedly fired on police, police returned fire that resulted in him being killed. Then some of his 'homies' decided to march in protest and next we know that these 'homies' were ransacking, vandalizing stuffs, looting shops, burning buildings and cars on the streets of London. Doesn't matter if it was a right wing, left wing or no wing government...

    Why did it escalate this far? Because the administration came out a little too soft, probably fearing international criticism. And they are always Angry, They are angry young men. They are angry because you and me work our asses off to make a living while they are not getting a dime while sitting on their asses. They are angry because when they get arrested for fighting on street or selling drugs, they are sent to jail. They are angry because no-one wants to hire them despite having a marvelous uneducated, unskilled background and awesome lazy, careless attitude.. I understand why they are angry, mate.
     
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  3. BRUm

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    #43
    This has nothing to do with capitalism. The filthy animals who said: "We're showing the rich that we do what we want" don't realise that they're targeting hard working middle-class business owners. Burning down a local jewellery shop isn't damaging anyone but local commerce, not the elite. These morons should be round-up and deported to a small island somewhere, white and black.
     
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    #44
    You mean stealing big screen tv's from private businesses doesn't have something to do with the cops shooting a black man?
     
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    #45
    Police will be allowed to use water cannons on rioters tonight, rubber bullets to follow.
     
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    #46
    Rubber bullets to follow? Are you kidding me? They should harvest organs from them and auction them off to a highest bidder to pay for the damages. And send what's left back to Africa.
     
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    #47
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    In a society where all proposed luxuries point to to an armchair, a TV, a cheeseburger and ask you to stay there for prolonged periods of time. Some people get bored, get up, go outside and find horizon to horizon of human battery farms. "Social Housing" so that developers get richer and the poorer get more tasty saturday night TV the ever-growing (in weight and number) family can gather around. A government embarrassed to partake in anything because they think the world is watching them.

    Why shouldn't I, the lazy welfarian have one of they cribs from cribs? Oh the snobbery.

    Armed Police = Problem solved.
    Be THAT vigilante :)

    UK Citizen.
     
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  8. BRUm

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  9. hypokill

    hypokill Well-Known Member

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    This is really just an eyeopener for all the middle class and upper class. This is our future, scary isn't it? Basically Mark Duggan was a member of a 1000 strong gang. Which these gangs (i would like to think) most people know they exsist. Everyday crime is committed by these gangs, they go to schools and give drugs to 10 year olds. When they are hooked they get them to sell it to other kids.

    Now gangs and opportunistic youngsters are taking advantage. These kids know there's nothing for them in the future so selling drugs and theft is all they have left to survive. When your surrounded around these kind of people it ends up being all you know. The more of the criminal you are the more your respected among other members of the gang. It's our governmental system which has caused this and they wont take the blame...
     
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    But the prize for the smuggest reaction must go to Iran, a nation still smarting from condemnation of their own brutal crackdown on demonstrations over a contested election. President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's foreign ministry spokesman, Ramin Mehmanparast, called on the police in the UK "to exercise restraint and behave in a controlled way". He then advised "the British government to start dialogue with the protesters and to listen to their demands." Finally, he suggested that an independent human rights organisation be allowed to investigate the killing of Mark Duggan "to protect the civil rights and civil liberties".

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/2011/aug/09/london-riots-iran

    'No evidence' London man fired on police in riots catalyst
    Britain's police watchdog says it has found no evidence that the man whose death at the hands of police sparked the recent London riots opened fire on officers before he was shot.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-08-...man-fired-on-police-in-riots-catalyst/2832272
     
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  11. BRUm

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    #51
    You're right on the mark there, being soft has destroyed our image. I hope something good comes out of this; I hope the government grows some damn balls and abolishes welfare for people who aren't properly able to work. They've bent to their will for too long. They can't cower again and give them more.

    The thing that pisses me off the most is how ungrateful the pigs are. They're now claiming that the hundreds and thousands of local residents who take to the street to do what they have failed to do, are in the wrong. The media are fuelling this further, passively demonising these brave defenders ad "vigilantes". Once the rioters have been dealt with I think we need to boot out the fusty morons in parliament and the upper rungs of the police.

    This country...
     
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  12. The Webby

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    #52
    Yes of course, these guys are scaring them off.. In a civilized society, a civilized person is expected to take the beating, roll over and die.

    I mean you are standing against the rioters today, tomorrow you will stand against corruption, then you will stand against the governmental fuck ups, and...and then.... people... will....start.... asking.... question.. and...demand... answers..OHH THE HORROR!!!!!!!
     
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    Here are another group of scumbags looting an injured and bleeding boy in distress.

    [video=youtube;6Gex_ya4-Oo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Gex_ya4-Oo[/video]
     
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    Where is Gadaffi when you need him, his police wouldn't spare these scum.

    Well it was fun for them for a while, now their getting tired and getting back to their slums.
     
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    It's very sad for the UK and I am truly concerned. I guess this is a wake up call for the government and for the many, many Brits who think very highly of themselves (I met some nice ones, though) . Well, nothing bad in being proud of yourself or taking pride of your heritage or accomplishments, but sometimes it comes off as being "arrogant," which I unfortunately witnessed in some of my online encounters.


    So it's kind of an irony the soft treatment showed by the police to such strong show of defiance and lawlessness when it clearly tramples not only the area they try to protect, but their ideals and the very authority they represent.

    Nevertheless, I still love England and hope her the best. And for now, it's peace and order.
     
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    WTS : minigun , custom made , billeted titanium parts , 2000 watt brushless engine , 500.000 7.62mm rounds also included . Order now and you will get one of Bushranger's discriminatory and false demonisation post included like "The english are racists" , "Kill all the hunters" , "Prohibition works" .
     
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    How much mate? I'll make the first bid at £5,000.
     
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  20. earlpearl

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    I'm old enough to recall the urban race riots in the US in the 1960's. In fact I was a kid working as a stock boy in a business co owned by my father during that period. The business was located in what was an epicenter or on the edge of one of those cities. Every day in the summer I would take lunch with my father and his partner. We'd walk a couple of blocks to a luncheonette and the two adults would discuss business. I was stunned by the environment. It was filthy, dirty, and smelled bad. Meanwhile I grew up in this lilly white nearby suburb. I'd never seen conditions like what I saw in the urban center. It left a stunning reaction.

    When the riots occurred the business shut down. It was lawless. Rioting everywhere. The police killed some rioters. A lot of stuff was stolen by kids and young adults. The same stuff being stolen now. Local shop keepers were killed and some shot looters. Some of the shop keepers were African Americans. They were defending their businesses against looters of the same color.

    Many of the circumstances between then and now are similar.

    After the riots ended we went back to work. The business for some incredibly lucky reason was not looted even as businesses around us were. I was a stock boy and young working with young adults who lived in the neighborhood. The staff had plenty of jokes and comments about stuff being sold on the street for discounts. It was. TV's radios, you name it. All cheap. All looted. I was way too young to have money but after the riots when on the street I was approached by plenty of people to buy different stuff, cheap.

    The entire experience left me with indelible memories. I believe the problems are many sided. What I found astounding within the US is that those riots occurred in the late 1960's. Its over 40 years later. Many of the environmental and societal problems that led to the riots NEVER CHANGED. A lot of those crappy urban areas remain. A lot of the same conditions remain. A lot of the problems that infected families then remain. The US went to the moon but has never tackled, solved or addressed those root issues.

    None of those comments are meant to absolve the looters of responsibility. The police and authorities need to quell the rioters as quickly as possibly. The sad stories that are emerging from hard working merchants in the looted areas who are people of color and who have seen their small businesses and economic lifelines destroyed are truly tragic. Its as if the looters are taking it out on their own.
     
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