before that, there is another question you ignored. http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=13164262&postcount=14 not an easy one, eh?
Question? lol When I said the UK was indecent it wasn't relating to the conflict at all, and I have my own reasons that I won't be sharing here as they are the subject to court proceedings. But yes indecency is having dealings with the indecent, and supporting them. Chaos what do you think a child of 2 terrorist parents will become?
After all, it is Abbas hugging with war criminal olmert in the picture. So I couldn't understand if you think that Abbas is an indecent person or not. Your thoughts? That is of course a stupid question. Not your first. Statistically he is more likely to become a terrorist himself but not necessarily.
This warrant, may never be implemented, but it for sure sends a message to the Israeli criminals, and their supporters, that you are being watched and the world is no longer believing Israeli blindly, as a Palestinian, it is much appreciated whether it was implemented or not, it tells me that there are people in this world who are aware now of the war mongering methods, and state terrorism the illegal state of Israel been practicing since before its establishment in 1948, before livni, Shamir who became later the Israeli PM, was also been wanted internationally, he arranged then to have 70 bombs sent in official British government envelopes to all members of the British cabinet, and he been responsible for assassinating Lord Moyne, and the UN mediator Folke Bernadotte, and many others like Shamir, those who argue that these terrorist acts where needed then, to establish the illegal state of Israel, can know now that these practices are still happening till now by the same criminals, they never stopped, only the excuses used to justify them have changed, when they can never be justified.
He or she. Livni comes from terrorist roots, so it's hardly surprising statistically speaking that she was cut from the same clothe. http://blogs.news.sky.com/middleeastblog/Post:4242a8d8-f5e9-4952-bbe8-7311904bda1f
Here's more about the British "Justice" : the nation who abused the peoples of the whole planet for centuries, and still. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMQbUajiIv4 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diego_Garcia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depopulation_of_Diego_Garcia but i'm pleased: their bad conscious made them let in millions of Muslims. "multiculti". The Muslims will revenge in the name of all the peoples they abused, in the very muslim way. You saw your girlfriend on that video, she is one of many. new, smile
That's not 'justice' that's abuse just like the abuse Israel hands out to the Palestinians You try to say there's no 'justice' in a legal sense in the UK, because they started slavery? your unreal The fact remains Israeli war criminals don't want to face justice in any country, that's why they issue warnings not to visit certain countries. Livni comes from two terrorist parents nuff said. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaism_and_slavery So poor excuse for the Jewish terrorists you defend.
And when you think that Israelis and Palestinians are the same people, same history, same background and then, one dude invented religion...and now, they kill each others....amazing... Imagine for a sec if they were enemies at the first place...Wow...
Very good decision dear Britain. I know you are chosen ones dear chaos, and we should not go against your wills, but you should know that "the chosen" has no meaning unless it is completed. Chosen to serve justice, not to go against it. I think you prove that you are no longer chosen. Thanks Toopac.
Son, I've been to Iraq twice and Afghanistan once. So trying to say something about me not ever being in a modern military? That's rich. Good try though. I'm pretty sure I have a large grasp on modern day warfare. No where in it does it include raining WP on civilians. Sorry, the excuse of a smoke screen is rediculous, owing to the fact that there are smoke rounds that can be dropped from a plane, thrown, shot from any 40mm grenade launcher, shot from mortars, rockets, and artillery, as well as armor. I've never just dumped my magazines, and neither did anyone in my unit, sorry. Again, speaking about something you don't actually understand. Only time we just left our magazines was if it was a hasty reload while being engaged in the open. All other times they went into our cargo pockets. No one is saying WP made the difference. It was an irresponsible move that is classified as a war crime. And what's funny is you can't even use the crappy defense of if you hadn't used it your people would have died in droves. Because, as you said yourself, it wouldn't have mattered. You see, this is what I love about Israelis, you guys can't find fault with yourselves. You think the entire world is out to get you. When in actuality, it is your fault that some people are getting fed up with you guys. I have no problem with being allies with Israel and supplying them with half their defense budget and some tools. The thing I have a problem with is Israel committing war crimes then acting like it was nothing. Sorry, your attempt at defending your country was actually quite pathetic.
Very true, Palestinians are fed up with occupation, and the crimes that are a part of the Israeli ideology, the definition of crime, for them, depend on the victim, if a Zionist shot dead a Palestinian kid, it is justified, if a Palestinian resist occupation, or express his refusal, by throwing stones at IOF, then it is a terrible crime, USA should re-think in its blind support to these war criminals, racist, and of course terrorists, if USA means what it says about fighting terrorism, they should also fight what causes terrorism, and one clear thing always brings terrorism, is the injustice that comes with occupation, terrorism is wrong, occupation is the father of terrorism.
hostlonestar, you missed my message. Here it is again, rephrased and compressed: Israel do not intentionally open fire on civilians. WP or not, firing on civilians is a war crime for itself. Israel can't and don't do that. The IDF, unlike the monstrous image it has in the world, is a pretty poor army. WP ammunition is cheaper and gives an additional smoke function - which is crucial when fighting in the world's most densely population area. So yes, the IDF use it sometimes - like ALL MODERN WESTERN ARMIES OF THE WORLD, INCLUDING THE US MILITARY IN IRAQ. There are the facts. Feel free to arrive at any conclusion you feel right. not true. Israel has a lot of wrong doings. I can list quite a few of them. But as far as Cast Lead is concerned, I'm behind Israel 100%. Big Story: We needed to make the rockets stop. The rockets are the crime, cast lead is the solution to make the crime stop - and don't let the propaganda confuse you. The rockets were fired on civilians with an intention to kill them and throw a party afterwards, something which most of the Israel critics always forget. WP story (small part of the big story): The WP has become another symbol in the narrative of the propaganda. One who doesn't understand might think that 100% of the ammunition that the IDF used was WP-based. By criticizing exactly what ammunitions Israel used and in which situations you are putting yourself in a position of an IDF commander in the field - one who knows all the constraints and limitations. But you were never there. So its easy to speak. My brother was there and believe me that he would have preferred to attend his senior year lectures instead.... WP is bad. its not very nice. Too bad we used it, in the few cases where it was used. Firing thousands of rockets on kindergartens and creating a whole pride industry around it as well as educating the next generation that this is their denstiny - to keep make these rockets fall, is much worse. Or, differently put: I will apologize for the use of WP only after Imad, Haniyeh, or any other jihadist, even 1, will apologize for firing 9000 rockets in 4 years on Israeli civilians. Why only after? simply because the latter was the reason for the first, and not vice versa.
It's funny how you condescend to people thinking your a "higher power". You didn't see it, you didn't... And ignore all other sources including testimony from our troops and independent observers and ignore the anti-semetic Goldstone report that tells you it did! We are a poor army we fight with basics like Hamas! Other countries use it - so it's ok. Kind of like when Hamas uses rockets, Israel does too right? rockets are not illegal. Guns are legal in war that means you can go around killing civilians with them (that's your argument). Like we ended the war too soon? You have no proper criticisms I'm sure. Of course you are - war crimes and all, it says a lot about your personality and agenda. And Hamas will say we need the occupation to stop, the war crimes, the inhumane treatment roads blocks, concentration camp conditions and that we fight back with what we have sticks n stones. Nobody is saying that at all, that's a falsehood generated by you. What has been said in this thread is that using WP in civilian areas is damn right disgusting and contrary to International law. That worked at Nuremberg, "you just don't know"? LMAO "firing on kindergartens" - Hamas fires unguided rockets into Israel being unguided they land where they land, so they could very well be targeting military installations. And you know as well as I that before cast lead there was a ceasefire and no rockets were launched into Israel until Israel broke the ceasefire, contrary to Israeli propaganda. You don't have to apologize it's up to Israel to apologize for using in the manner they did against civilians which constituted a war crime, they do not need apologize for using it it's legal they need to apologize for what they did with it.
Pfff....that issue will never go away... It's everywhere, even here.... What's needed is a nuke in the middle and get peace for once and forever...
Why not hand herself in? http://www.israel-palestinenews.org/2009/12/israeli-womens-group-tells-livni-to.html