uh oh...i predict big riots (Muhammed cartoons)

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  1. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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  2. ly2

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    #722
    Will, you got my PM about the avatar? You dont care do you?
     
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  3. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    It's a free country. Still. <checks> Yep.
     
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  4. execute

    execute Peon

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    #724
    It seems Mia cannot read. At all! Let me bold it for you!! I'm sorry i forgot the dash; however, it was quite obvious.
     
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  5. ly2

    ly2 Notable Member

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    #725
    I thinki everyone should be using these avatars.
    Someone just PM'd me: "Holy shit man, your avatar rocks!"
    I told them I stole it from will.spencer
    =x
     
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  6. execute

    execute Peon

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    #726
    Very Good post.
     
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  7. execute

    execute Peon

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    #727
    HAHAHA, that's hilarious. Every muslim except extremists or terrorists would love that. Why don't newspaper publish things like this? But instead go out and make cartoons disrespecting Islam.
     
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  8. Interlogic

    Interlogic Peon

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    #728
    I agree with this completely
    Every Religion has it's extremists:
    http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_viol.htm - Scroll down to the table of statistics here!
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_terrorism
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_violence
    It was estimated in Mid 2004 that there were 1,283,424,000 Muslims world wide. If "they" all are involved in violence and if there is really truth in these cartoons that the islam faith is based on terrorism then surely 1,283,424,000 muslims would have killed more people by now. Don't get me wrong here, one person is still too many but if every muslim wanted to kill every infidel then the death toll would be MUCH higher.

    Yes there have been serious problems and extremists have managed to take advantage of this situation to create violence and that is without doubt a BAD BAD situation but to say that all muslims are the same is like saying that all christians are involved in and condone bombing of abortion clinics. DO YOU condone killing people in the name of your religion? Or even just harrasing them??
    Are you saying every single cleric of Islam has recently announced this?

    I am sure some clerics have taken this hard line but then again it is well know that there are a number of clerics that hold extremist views.

    There are also bishops who take what would be considered an extremist view by refusing to give communion to politicians that support pro choice legislation.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai...ry11.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/07/11/ixworld.html
    http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2004/apr/04043003.html
    http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/kralis/040706

    Don't get me wrong here, I have absolutely no tolerence for violence on any basis, religious or otherwise. I do have a problem with the general tone in this thread which is that "Muslims" are to blame for all the violence. Muslims aren't to blame, a group of people that are Muslims are the reason.
     
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  9. IamNed

    IamNed Peon

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    #729
    There are so many muslims that even if one percent of them dont hold terrorist beliefs there is 10.1 million of them that do.

    This a battle between west and the mid east. We must win this war on terrorism and if western culture is to prevail.

    We must stomp out liberalism as well.

    Pro life is about saving lives versus muslims bent on destruction. There is no comparison. Since when did pro life become fundmentalism? Obviously you are a confused Chistian basher.
     
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  10. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #730
    I'll give you a gold star if you can define "liberalism"
     
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  11. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #731
    Did you read the bold part? Apparently not. There are no 1st Amenment like laws. The 1st Amendment is not a law. Move on...

    OWNED again..
     
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  12. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #732
    Me thinks you just did ;)

    You can keep the star btw!
     
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  13. Arnie

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    I always hear that just a few islamis do that and so on.
    Fact is that boycots where inizialized by goverments. - bingo. Violent demonstrations were inizialized by their govts.

    How many churches have been torched in Pakistan, Iraq, Iran and other countries only last year?
    How many Christian worshippers have been slaugthered during the same period.
    OH, respect, where are you? As Mia pointed out rightly, Islamis try to be seen as victims, which they are not.

    There are a few muslim countries which keep themselves out of this double standard game and I regard that as correct and right.

    Millions complaining and protesting about pictures they never saw. Now, how can something be charged without showing evidence?
     
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  14. Interlogic

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    No I amn't a confused Christian basher. My Girlfriend is the Musical director and conductor of a Gospel Choir and I go to every one of their gigs. I was born and raised in "Catholic Ireland". I amn't actually catholic myself, I was raised as a Baha'í but when I turned 15 I chose not to declare and now just consider myself a person of strong personal faith. I just think that it's ridiculous to paint everyone in a religion (any religion) based on the actions of a group within that religion. If I treated christians like some people in this thread are treating Muslims then I would be saying that all Pro Lifers are about using violence to force their own beliefs on everyone, where the fact of the matter is I don't believe that and I even share a few of the personal beliefs of pro lifers even if I am pro choice.

    Pro life is about saving life, yes that's true, but if you look at one of the links I posted then here are some stats I added up from a table about abortion clinic violence from christian fundamentalists:
    Murders and Attempted Murders - 24
    Bombing, Arson, Attempted Bombing or Arson - 179
     
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    #735
    The question is simple, Is it justified to hurt some one's feelings ?

    By the way Arnie,this was the hilarious part of your theory...

    Are you saying humiliation/injustice is fine as long as you have not seen it by your own eyes. Each person has to witness it before he/she should protest it.
     
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  16. Edz

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    #736
    Uh, yes...you are a human being right and not a sheep that blindly follows everyone and taking their word for anything that they might tell you.


    What one considder not hurtfull if it would be applied to them could not be hurtfull to another.


    Religion is an oppinion that is the base of someones life and behaviour and oppions are being riduculed on a daily basis being it religious or political.
    A person can make the wise choice to ignore the people that ridule someones oppinion in any way she/he can or someone can make the stupid decision to resort to violence and show their commitment to Islam is weak and having non-believers have the power to manipulate a persons mind to do things that is against the beliefs of Islam.
     
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  17. Arnie

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    What do you get when your hear something from a friend of a friend friends of a friends-friend friend?

    People have the right to get the full pictures and not just as some imam decides. It's a blackmailing campaign stirring up troubles against the free west, nothing else.
    Lies are exposed one after another as the truth unfolds, they will have to shut up, but that is exactly what the islam authorities not want.

    It was clearly exposed about the islamis lie like that there are no pictures about their muhammed ever painted in islam countries...
    It was clearly exposed that double standards are used as the danish muslim leader was interviewed by western and arab TV stations asked exactly the same questions and then answered different and with a completlly different attitute. Isn't that an islamic characteristic?

    The list could go on and on and on....

    So you need a theory that islam has set up the whole issue, which in fact it has to most of the part over that controversy.
     
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  18. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #738
    None of the islamis can be really hurt - biggest joke ever. Now they are focosing with their frustration on the west, - but usually killing and harming each other.

    Your post looks like that you want to say the reaction to the whole issue is justified and that it's allright to destroy foreign properties and threaten the goverments, countries and people with murder etc.

    Payday is on its way...
    Without apologizing and restituing there is no forgiveness.

    As I mentioned earlier, its time to end all this muslim baby-sitting.

    They must get mature or meet their self-imposed fate ...
    We have to go on with other important subjects, like health issues, environement etc.

    Clear enough
     
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    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    In meanwhile there are reports according to sunday telegraph, that the USA is working out detailed logistics to destroy Irans nuclear facilities, if Iran doesn't give up its ambitions to stop nuclear enrichment.

    Time's running out finally. It's up to the islam countries to use their influence and have them come to their senses, which is allmost impossible - but who knows.

    They shouldn't dare to think and believe that others would come to their rescue, not even mohamad.

    Good luck
     
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    ferret77 Heretic

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    #740
    so does yours

     
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