uh oh...i predict big riots (Muhammed cartoons)

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  1. Hon Daddy Dad

    Hon Daddy Dad Peon

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  2. ly2

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  3. latehorn

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    But you make backlinks everytime you post
     
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  4. execute

    execute Peon

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    #664
    Kitman or whatever you call it, mr gtech or whatever, is complete bull so please stop quoting from that.

    ly, just cuz you had bad experiences with a muslim family doesn't make them all "animals". And i never said to respect extremists or the ones burning buildings or the ones that kill people. I said to respect Islam by not making cartoons to be used as propaganda and recruiting tools for terrorists.
    So you need to calm down.

    Mia you make no arguments, all you do is blame liberals for everything and disrespect everyone, and then claim freedom of speech. The reason I am red is because racists like you add to my rep, but really no one is giving me bad rep except 3 in december for argueing with someone about php and asp. Freedom of speech is protected, but it doesn't give you the right to step over others beliefs religion or culture. I don't care what country you are in, if you say "F you" to the principal you will get suspended... So much for your free speech argument. Just because the constitution gives you rights doesn't make you a king that can disrespect everyone. Now whos the liberal?

    Christians can make fun of christians, muslims can make fun of muslims (atleast to their friends), but when a christian makes fun of a muslim or when a muslim makes fun of a christian or anything like that, it's racism. Especially when it's false. Especially when Muslims belief is to not draw the Mohammed. You are just being criminal by insulting and disrespecting people. Sure their reaction is terrible, and very bad, but that's not all the muslims, you can't dub muslims as Primitive just because some of them are extremists.

    There may be SOME muslims that make fun of Jews or Christians, but that makes them a racist, but they never publish cartoons about Moses or Jesus, you will never find one.

    I don't mind if you make fun of terrorists, hate terrorists or hate extremists. That's perfectly fine by everyone. But don't offend a group as a whole like as if they are all bad. And stop referring the Muslims as terrorists, or even saying Muslim Terorrists because frankly they know nothing about Islam.
     
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  5. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    So is she like covered up so as not to show any "freedom of expression"? Or is she just butt ugly? Or is it maybe just freedom of non-expression? It could just be the new in like Mike MJ look... All she needs now is a white glove ;)

    Please Note: The following is not necessarily the opinion of fox news, conservatism, DP or myself. It is simply satire, humor if you will.
     
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  6. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    How do you account for the fact, that - for centuries - muslims have had drawings of mohammed on walls, on plaques, on trinkets, etc. ?
     
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  7. debunked

    debunked Prominent Member

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    So what you are saying is you think that the simpsons are made by Christians. LOL. you are lost buddy. :(

    I am going out on a limb and I am going to assume that you think all americans are Christians. You are way off base there buddy.

    Non-Christians make the simpsons, unless you can show me where the writers say they are.

    If I sleep in a garage would that make me a car then?

    :D
     
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  8. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    Boo hoo.. Cry me a river. I never gave you a red rep you big baby.. You mean like the one you just gave me: "racist ignorant close-minded-conservative". That was really big of you. Ok, so I don't like very many Canadians.. That is about it. What I have is a differing opinion and respect for other people's views. If that makes me a racist, well then, ok. Whatever man.

    I am assuming your red reps stem from the fact that you have been extremely abusive to other members of this forum on an off of it. You're not a very nice person, or at least you come off that way here.

    You seek to argue about the 1st Amendment, but refuse to acknowledge any case law on the subject. When did I say you could say "F" you to a principal? I never said that. I said that flipping the bird to a cop is protected under the First Amendment as free speech. This is a fact. It was tested in the courts. Now verbally abusive language in a school, directed at a school principal is likely going to get you suspended, correct. But you will not find yourself in jail. It may be wrong, but certainly not illegal. I can only assume you are speaking from experience by mentioning this. Especially since it has nothing to do with what I said.

    My suggestion is when you get back in school (jr high is it?) on Monday you go an apologize to your principal and tell him as an act of contrition you would very much like to take a PoliSci course. Tell him you would like to focus on the constitution particularly.

    Now just go away if you don't have anything nice to say. Everyone else here seems to have no problem acting like an adult. If you take anything said on this forum that personally I suggest you take a break from it. Life is too short to get this violent and enraged.


    No, I've not seen any Muslims making fun of Jews or Christians... I have however seen "Muslim Terrorist" kill Jews and Christians, and visa versa. What exactly is your point.. No wait, don't answer, I'm turning ignore on.
    I would appreciate if you would take more time to read. I've never lobbed all Muslims into one group as a whole. I'm pretty sure I have made a distinction. The only person saying this is you. If I have said "Muslim Terrorist", it is because the terrorist I referred to happened to be a "Muslim". Perhaps not your perception of what a Muslim is, but to them, ie, the "Muslim Terrorist", they are. Calling a Terrorist that just happens to be "Muslim", is not the same as calling all Muslims terrorists.


    Peace out and Happy Friday!

    Ah, but those probably were not "real" Muslims...
     
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  9. execute

    execute Peon

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    There are NO drawings or paintings or anything of Mohammed except his body in very rare paintings. His face is not drawn. It's white (his whole head). Because he had specifically said he did not want himself drawn or worshipped, he is only a messanger not a God.
     
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  10. execute

    execute Peon

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    Do you work in the Simpsons? Or are you just assuming they are non-christian because they don't say they are christian. You do not know. Even in the Simpsons (and yes i do watch it ALL the time as it is my favorite show), they poke fun about Jesus, they never insult Jesus. If they do please do show me, because I have seen almost all of the episodes.
     
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  11. Crazy_Rob

    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    #671

    So why do muslims worship him??
     
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  12. execute

    execute Peon

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    I am acting like an adult, you're the one argueing with me like a child. I have not even said anything to you and you go out argueing my points, even though you agree with me on everything except freedom of speech maybe.
    My red reps come from when i made a post on a topic about blogs, which someone i guess gave me a bad rep for it. I only have 5 reps, the other one is where I argued about php and asp. Two are good reps. I am very nice too, except when there is ignorance or racism that i cannot tolerate.

    LEt me highlight yourself for you:
    "It may be wrong"

    Now, this means you do agree with me it's wrong. I never said that the cartoonists should be thrown in jail. I said for the sake of being educated and mature, they should apologize, or not get mad about the reaction.
    It may be ??? No, then you're saying it's not wrong when someone flicks you off, and curses you out. Right? Somehow that's hard to believe that you would say "Oh yes thats perfectly fine sir to flick me off or curse at me, i don't mind it one bit", I'm sure you will atleast get a bit angry inside.

    Just because the right is protected in America doesn't make it the same in every other country. Fact is, as a mature adult, you are suppose to respect everyone. Otherwise you learned nothing as a citizen that is educated.

    And again you rambled like an idiot trying to insult me and failing completely.

    My point is you should respect others, as that is what's taught by everyone (Your parents, your friends, your government, your teachers), but i guess no one told you any of that. Go right on ahead disrespecting everyone then.

    No, a real Muslim would not allow terrorism. Terrorists are Terrorists whatever their beliefs are. They are criminals, they should be punished and put in jail. IT doesn't mean you should attack the innocent with insults because the terrorists happen to SAY they believe in Islam. They obviously don't, and for you to say they are Muslim Terrorists means that you are ignorant.

    You too !!! :D

    Just stop your needless rambling, so far you've attacked me, Liberals, Canadians... WHat's next? You are obviously a very immature person.
     
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  13. lorien1973

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    So if you have never seen his face, how do you know that the drawings in question are mohammed at all? :confused:

    But that is not true at all, there are drawings of him:
    http://www.zombietime.com/mohammed_image_archive/

    If I werent lazy (and I cared more), I'd drag up more, but these are plenty

    There are also ones of him without a face as you said
    http://www.zombietime.com/mohammed_image_archive/islamic_mo_face_hidden/
     
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  14. execute

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    They don't. Who said they did? They worship God.

    Oh oh oh, you're asking, why they are mad when they make a cartoon of Mohammed then. Becuase the cartoon of Mohammed represents ALL of Islam, not just Mohammed. The cartoons say "Muslims are people with Turbans and bombs".... Which is just 100% false.

    Just because you have freedom of speech doesn't make you righteous to go ahead and insult everyone and be a racist.
     
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  15. execute

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    #675
    Half of those Images are Pictures created by Non-muslim artists.
    The other half is Asian art without any writing (By Muslims). They have done these pictures but as caption have said a "Caliph" or "a great Religious man or priest". Never Mohammed the prophet.

    Trust me, it says it in the Koran, no Muslim would draw a picture of Mohammed saying "yep that's how he looked like" or "this is mohammed"...

    The ones with face hidden are actual pictures of Mohammed. But I mean you show me a website with all pictures from European artists, and a couple from Islamic artists, who never say he is Mohammed. Because no one wants him worshipped, he is a messanger alone. I mean come on, they even spelled Mohammed wrong on a bunch of those pictures.

    No one knows what he looks like, just as much as no one knows what Jesus really looks like. The cartoon clearly says it's mohammed with the little icon.
     
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    Uh yea, actually it does give me that right. :)

    Again, that darn freedom of speech comes into play. :)

    No, rather they make fun of the holocaust. Because the fucking morons are so STUPID, they think the holocaust is OK, but drawing a picture of their mohammod are not. They have ZERO common sense.
    Fuck... "mohommad" :)

    I will call them what I like, I am sick of them all.
    If you dont like it, move to Iran.
    This is america, where you can say anything about anyone.
    You can even draw cartoons how you want, woah, what a concept eh?
    If that makes me a racist, fine by me. Matter of fact, I am calling myself out.
    I AM RACIST AGAINST MUSLIM TERRORISTS.
    And I say "muslim terrorists", because thats what they are. They ARE NOT christian terrorists, they ARE NOT jewish terrorists, and they ARE NOT anything but MUSLIM TERRORISTS.
    Good day to you sir.

    Well that's true! You know, I think this is the time when all of DP should gather to burn down buildings and cut off peoples head. DER

    YES MAN.... IT DOES.
    A perfect example of this is when the KKK WALKS down a street in a parade.

    CANT YOU GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD? WE CAN SAY WHATEVER THE FUCK WE LIKE!

    LEAVE IRAN MAN! COME TO AMERICA AND LIVE A REAL LIFE. TAKE THAT SILLY NIJA OUTFIT OFF AND GET ON A PLANE!!!
     
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    ROAR Well-Known Member Affiliate Manager

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    #677
    execute "I said to respect Islam by not making cartoons to be used as propaganda and recruiting tools for terrorists."

    or what?----
     
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    Exactly.
    This isnt france or Iran, there will be no burning of cars and buildings here. The good 'ol boys will have none of that.
     
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    debunked Prominent Member

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    #679
    The only thing I will agree with Execute is to respect someone enough not to try to be offensive. I won't try offend a muslim by putting up a cartoon of mohammad out of respect, but I do not have any respect at all for those who are rioting, killing, etc... because of the cartoon.. NO respect for bad behavior. I don't believe in abortion, but don't condone those who bomb abortionist or murder the doctors, but condemn those actions.
     
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    debunked Prominent Member

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    #680
    I assume most Americans are not Christians unless they profess that they are... Is that strange to you?? Many Americans are not Christians. So, if you think that all americans are Christians, you are sadly mistaken as I have stated before. But ignorance might lead you to believe otherwise.

    I don't appreciate it when they try to make mock Jesus, but I think that God actually can handle that situation on his own and doesn't need my help, now I can choose to not watch the show for its content, which I have chosen not to, I wouldn't want my kids watching that kind of stuff.
     
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