uh oh...i predict big riots (Muhammed cartoons)

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by dsm56, Feb 1, 2006.

  1. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #581
    You mean as long as you're chunkin rocks and burning down embassies? Toes curling yet? :D
     
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  2. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #582
    Probably just as many times as he's seen a muslim in real life :D :D :D
     
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  3. debunked

    debunked Prominent Member

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    #583
    nope, never said that at all. Come back with a verse that says Sunday is a day you can't work on.

    (Then when you figure out what you said was off, we may be able to have a little discussion.)
     
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  4. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #584
    I dis-like backwards irrational violent people regardless who they are, at least on a national scale.

    Sometimes irrational violent people are entertaining to take to bars though.

    If I was in one the embassies I would have shot someone if they tried to burn it down at least with me in it. Those people are assholes, but there are assholes all over.

    What do you want gtech a gold star, saying your religion is the best?
     
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  5. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #585
    Exodus 31:15 debunked, sorry put death maybe not stoned
     
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  6. mdvaldosta

    mdvaldosta Peon

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    #586
    I think I've got yo-yo figured out, he's:

    A scrawny 19 year old white kid with a full beard and is an devout Muslim. He's in a Liberal college, probably an Institute of Arts. He regularly watches CBS yet never reads the newspaper. His second favorite news source is al-jazeera. He speaks broken Arabic but getting better and wants to run for congress when he grows up to "make a difference", but won't bother because the elections are rigged.
     
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  7. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #587
    I think i've got mdvaldosta figured out: He's a big asshole, and is wrong about everything except me being white, and his uncalled for personal attacks on me only go to emphasize what a big asshole he really is :rolleyes:
     
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  8. debunked

    debunked Prominent Member

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    #588
    Nothing about Sunday is there. The Sabath is Saturday, BTW, I thought you might want to know since you already knew everything else, I would hate for you not to know everything. LOL .

    In spanish it is Sabado (Sabath) The Jews and muslims both recognise this day as their holy day.

    Any other questions?
     
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  9. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #589
    so wait because I said sunday, rather the saturday it changes the point I was making? Nice try
     
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  10. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #590
    Nope, just a subtle reminder of what options are out there. I figured if I could show how it might affect *you personally,* it might put things in different perspective. I have no doubt you value your head.
     
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    debunked Prominent Member

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    #591
    Oh, you had a point? I thought you were just trying to compare some false religion with something in the bible that you really don't have any understanding of. (If I am wrong about you understanding, please enlighten me)

    Jesus spoke about the Sabath and even gave more understanding to why there is a Sabath, do you an explaination or some verses to see what I am talking about?
     
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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #592
    What was that about christianity? ;)
     
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    ferret77 Heretic

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    #593
    oh I get it Gtech, you are calling me gay, thats deep

    Why don't you go get your welfare check.
     
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  14. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    Are you an ferret off your meds again?
     
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  15. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #595
    Because I'm not a liberal ;)
     
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    ferret77 Heretic

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    #596
    yeah, That it says in the bible people who work on a certian day should be put to death, which is just as backwards whatever backwards crap is in the Quran.
     
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  17. execute

    execute Peon

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    #597
    He was equating or atleast implying that islam and terrorism are the same. I do not even like the hint of that.

    This is a flawed argument, because you cannot go around calling people racist names or making cartoons about Hitler being a hero. You just cannot, sooner or later someone will prosecute you. Whatever the law may be, no one gives you the freedom of disrespecting other people.

    If you truly believe so, than you are no different than the people that are in a militia in the US and say "well it says in the constitution that we have a right to overthrow any government". This is misinterpretation.

    Are you a republican? Why do you single out only one news group. It's in ALL the news networks, not just one.

    They may not TRY to, but they do do it in the process. For example, they call Al-qaeda terrorists but they say "Palestinian Militants" rather than "terrorists" or "kurdish militants" rather than "PKK Terrorists", when discussing a bombing (Quoted from BBC). Although that may not be the best example, it is an example of how they have the power to distort things.

    And by constantly saying "Islamic terrorists" they CONTINUE to distort peoples views. There is no such thing as an Islamic terrorist. Because frankly, those who kill in the name of religion have a distorted view of religion and are not truly Muslim. This is the concept that's so hard to grasp by a lot of people.

    But they do, you never see anything about Muslims making progress or anything, all you hear is, "Islamic terrorists did bla bla bla at bla bla bla yesterday and they beheaded 5 people bla bla bla".

    Unless you are just trying to argue for the sake of "arguing", you do not need to say such nonsense, since you yourself know i meant news network.

    Oh so you are claiming IRA never killed innocent people. Oh it's a war? I see how it is, so it's a war when IRA blows up places, but it's a terrorist attack when there is a suicide bombing in Israel. To those terrorists it is a war for them, and this is their only way to fight it.

    IRA may not behead people. But i do believe Beheading, blowing people up, shooting people all fall under the same category of KILLING. I seriously think you are just argueing with me for the sake of argueing.


    They may not say it, but they imply it, and they use the word muslim when relating to terrorists. Religion is almost regional. You were born in Arabia in a muslim family you become muslim 99% of the time. The terrorists cannot find a way to get people to listen to them, so they use religion as a motivation tool, and they trick idiots into doing things by claiming god wanted them to. Much like the crusades. Religion is easily corrupted by people to do their bidding.

    When i said 100,000 that was 2 days ago's stats.

    I think you are seeing what your eyes see, because you do not seem to look at it from others point of view except your own.

    No because Extremists think they are muslim, but that's not what true muslim is about. They did not read the book. THose Extremist Islamic Arabs should have another name... Criminals or Terrorists, they have no relation to Islam other than that's their motivation tool.

    All i'm saying is people need to dissassociate Islam and Terrorism. THe cartoons were making that association which is just false and completely wrong on so many levels. By making that association many other people are believing it. Those cartoons are like a propaganda tool to discriminate against muslims.

    But not everyone is under the 1st amendment, since that only applies to the US. It will offend people that have no idea what the 1st amendment is, let alone what the constitution is. Just because you are protected under your country doesn't mean you are protected elsewhere. Those people don't believe in freedom of speech. You must respect other cultures, not lash at them and expect to get away with it.

    Sure some of the extremists reaction is over-reaction and Wrong and criminal. But so is the cartoons. If the Danish president had apologized and punished the newspaper for printing offensive cartoons, 95% of extremists would have calmed down. But the fact is, the Danish president doesn't want to do anything, because he believes he is right, and thus he is living with the consequences, not only that he is affecting other countries as well. This is provocation for the extremists, you are suppose to be making PEACE and restoring order around the world as a citizen of this PLANET, not trying to create more violence. Neither side should react in violent or "verbally or visually offensive" action.

    There is, but we should be eliminating them, not making more enemies by publishing cartoons. This is a recruiting tool for Al-Qaeda. But the cartoons are racist. " People are not associating Islam with Terrorism. What they are doing is associating terrorists with terrorism" How is drawing a cartoon of Mohammed with a bomb on his head associate terrorism with terrorism, it associates islam with terrorism and you know it.

    Atleast you agree with me on one thing. That's why i don't like the caricatures.
    Caricatures are meant to be funny and poke fun at politics, not offend a nation or religion. Think about it, some person who knows nothing about Islam will pick up these cartoons see them and actually believe that Muslims are terrorists and that Muslims believe in 72 virgins in heaven. Which is just NOT true.
     
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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #598
    You'll never convince any religious people how wrong they are.

    It's like asking a big group of kindergartners if Santa Claus or the Tooth Fairy are real....:D
     
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  19. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #599
    Things like this make me sit back and go... You know, we have come a hell of a long way in a really short time in the US...
     
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    execute Peon

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    #600
    Good point! It's sad but true. Don't ever promote violence over anything. Except in movies :p
     
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