I wouldn't be so sure of that. Course I would be asking too much for you to back that statement up with hard evidence wouldn't I?
Surely a "moron" couldn't pull off 9/11 and two election riggings? Maybe they keep electing who they do because they are tired of people like you who will never be pleased with anything the right does? Whom bitch and moan about everything and who wake up every morning filled with hate.
Did you not say that all muslims are extremists? I know you said some posts that IMPLY that atleast. Otherwise I apologize. No Mohammed is not special. Christians make fun of Jesus all the time (such as Southpark), doesn't mean some don't get offended but the fact is it is not a Muslim or Jew making fun of Jesus, then there would be serious consequences. Fact is, in Islam you are Forced to respect Jesus and Moses just as much as Mohammed. Some may think differently, depending on how much they read the Holy book. It is an implied law. Please, if you truly believe that there is never rules, then you believe in Anarchy not Democracy. Please PLEASE, just try to make a newspaper with cartoons addressing Hitler as a hero or Nazis as justified for killing Jews. Please try it, i dare you. ITs called Discrmination and Racism, there are laws for that, in almost every Western country. Other than Hamas, please do give me examples. There is only 3 Islamic MAJORITY (not islamic states) countries that have had elections: Afghanastan, Turkey, and Iraq. Maybe Malaysia? (i'm not too sure of that). Get some real Eastern News, you will see Imam's (Islamic Priests) fighting rioters and forcing them to stop. Look at CNN, you might see Irani Police beating rioters, and protecting embassies. Look at any news channel, you will see Afghani Police killing and beating the rioters. They are all muslim. Are they bad too? Fact is the majority of Muslims are fighting these extremists, but you DO NOT see it. There was a protest i can't remember where, yesterday or something, there was a protest by Muslims, that were protesting the killings and burning of buildings by extremists. Turkish and Spanish President are calling for an end to the violence and urging other governments to control the violence. The problem is, a lot of Western countries are rich, since in the past the Western countries used imperialism to make a lot of middle eastern countries poor in the end. Although the eastern countries are trying very hard to fix the problems, the reason there are 100,000 extremists right now rioting, is because there is a lot of poor uneducated extremists that live there. Some countries are so poor, that they are full of these extremists, they cannot go to school so they find someone to blame, and become extremists. I mean imagine if the whole US was filled with rednecks (before Black rights), i'm absolutely sure, there would still be slavery. Have you ever seen a cartoon where the super hero has the chance to let the villian die? But instead he saves him and says "i'm better than that", and puts him in jail. Well that's what EVERYONE is suppose to do. It's a good lesson that many people miss or forget, we're suppose to make humanity as a whole stronger. We need to stop these wars and advance our world to become stronger race in general. Not fighting over stupid things. Or hating each other. So stop contributing to the hate. Like i said the muslims show a lot of effort, the only reason it doesn't look that is because the ones showing effort (the majority) don't go out with swords and AK-47s and assissinate the extremists, they aren't violent, and thus they don't show up on the news. Instead through education and governments arresting and correcting people is the only way they can solve these problems. And like i said, you need to stop watching your censored and lacking news channels that show nothing but violence and hate, and never show anything else. How come our US media does not show anything from Iraq barely? Unless it's something good (as in soldiers have a successful operation etc). Eastern news channels always show everything, Americans being successful, and American soldiers dieing, etc... For example, there was one eastern news channel showing a camera man in Iraq that was innocent bystanders all over the place, and a BlackHawk American helicopter started shooting at them killing the camera man, the reporter escaped though. THis was NEVER shown on CNN or anything. Why is that? They are terrorists, call them Bin laden's terrorists, call them by their nationality (like the 911 attackers were Arab terrorists, they weren't muslim, because they obviously haven't read the Koran. Which clearly says you should not kill the innocent. But instead they killed the innocent including Muslims, what sort of irony is that?). Call them Al-Qaeda. Al-Qaeda is not muslim it is a distortion of Wahobism, which i believe has nothing to do with Islam. They don't. Other than Hamas, there is no other example. (the people electing Hamas is constantly seeing killings and war, and they are poor and uneducated, thus of course they elect terrorists). They do, you are just blind. IT is very obvious by this question you have no idea about anything happening in the world, you are completely blinded by the LITTLE detail that you have from your news channel. Again, you do not see the whole story, so you shouldn't make judgements. They aren't winning. Iran doesn't have a democracy. The president more like King, was elected by the Islamist extremists. Even if the majority voted for a democratic and good political leader, it wouldn't have made anyone but an extremist president.
What is so funny? Again I ask why do I have to meet a Muslim to get the big picture? I already understand Muslims are peaceful people. What more could I gain from seeing one in person?
Al gore won the popular vote. But as usual the electoral college has the final say in who wins. So pretty much popular vote is not really important since an elector might suddenly change their mind one way or another, although they are suppose to vote for the populous they are NOT obligated to.
Proving my point once again, disagree with someone on this subject, and you are a racist. But is that not what America is about? I do not recall the 1st Amendment saying something like "Congress shall make no law, except where as it concerns a religious leader." Nope, no sir, does not say that. I agree 100%. When was the last time you turned on liberalNN and heard good news, or uplifting news. Not very often. I cannot fault the media with making one person feel one way another about a terrorist though. I think most people can make up their own mind without relying on the media to tell them how to think. Well, again, most, people... Left or right, I really do not think there is any media outlet in the US that hopes to have their ratings defined by a beheading. Not all of us. I pay a premium for DirectTV so I can watch what I want when I want. I never watch network news, and rarely watch network TV. There are some clear differences there. They were at war with one another, not everyone who was not them. Don't remember any IRA beheadings. That's real nice, but no one here said anything other than "extremist". No one here has lobbed everyone into one group. That 100,000 number is incorrect. There were 500,000 just today in Beruit. No one is arguing that they nut jobs are in a minority. Take the blinders off when you read posts on this forum. Apparently you and a few others are only seeing what your eyes want you to see. That is the type of ignorance that leads to real bigotry and racism. No one is equating Islam with extemists or terrorist, or arabs. What people are doing is equating Extremist Islamic Arabs with terrorism in the name of their religion. There is a HUGE difference. That is not true. I see pleny of Muslims on TV that are not beheading people, burning things, bombing things, etc. Sauids, Quatar, Pakistani's, etc... I'm not sure what your point is. Are you trying to say that TV is showing Extremist Islamic Arabs as being bad all the time? That's what Freedom of Speech is all about man. Take one of America's greatest testers of the court system and our constitution. Larry Flynt. Larry Flynt went before the Supreme Court to argue that "bad taste" (insults) IS protected under the 1st Amendment. I believe it was over suggesting Jerry Fawell banged his mother in an outhouse. People are not associating Islam with Terrorism. What they are doing is associating terrorists with terrorism. It just so happens that there happen to be some Islamic Extremist Terrorists around. That's a fact. That's not racist, its not bigotted, its just the truth. This much is true: Nothing in the Koran specifically states that the faithful are allotted 72 virgins apiece.
I have clearly stated that was not the intention of the posts I made more times than I care to go over. Please read through the last few pages to make note of this. Sorry but if a Muslim or Jew made fun of Jesus no one would be rioting in the streets. That's fine for Muslims. Too bad the person that made this cartoon was neither. So they are forced to do nothing. I'd like to see someone try to make a cartoon making out Hitler as a hero. That would be funny in itself My point? Alot of people in this world have a view that Muslims as a whole are letting the extremists take over their religion. This is what the cartoons imply. Simple as that. Funny two of those countries you mention have been influenced by America. Iran may not have elections but by ideally sitting by you are accepting what your country is doing. Silence means consent. If you can't be bothered to stand up for your rights you will be overrun by the extremists. The cartoons imply this is what the Muslim world is allowing happen. How can you not see this? That is great for them and I commend them for that. However you have countries like Pakistan who do not turn over terrorists because they fear retalliation from the extremists. Afghanastan before the US came in was the damn breeding grown for extremists. Had we done nothing in Afghanstan would the Muslims have stepped up and said enough is enough and taken out the Taliban? Sooner or later there will be progress that has to be seen. I look forward to this if what you say is true. I do not believe it is happening myself. Only time will tell. That is good then. However, since when has "calling" for an end to anything done any good? Action needs to be taken by governments that feel this way. For the longest time America was filled with bigots. Until people started stepping up and making a change. Never seen that in a cartoon or in real life. It doesnt happen for a reason. Hate. The hate has to stop somewhere. Who is going to stop it? The Middle East is filled with it. It is like a breeding grown. The governments that are not corrupt fear retalliation. You think it does not cross their mind that if they could pull of a 9/11 3,000 miles from their home what they could do to their country in the middle of the breeding ground? I can not answer that. I know our Media is corrupt. Yet the Middle east hides these people. Like I said Pakistan is afraid of backlash for turning in these people. Fair enough, I look forward to seeing this change you speak of I guess so We shall see IT is very obvious by this question you have no idea about anything happening in the world, you are completely blinded by the LITTLE detail that you have from your news channel. Again, you do not see the whole story, so you shouldn't make judgements. They aren't winning. Iran doesn't have a democracy. The president more like King, was elected by the Islamist extremists. Even if the majority voted for a democratic and good political leader, it wouldn't have made anyone but an extremist president.[/QUOTE]
No, I guess we just have to be mindful of and respect terrorist to in this PC world. So in honor of that, I am no longer referring to Jeffery Dahmer as a serial killer. He was a homicidally challenged, sexually challenged, mentally challenged person. I just have to figure out what PC term I can use for pedophiles now...
According to: http://www.understanding-islam.com/related/text.asp?type=question&qid=286&sscatid=259 Yep. Punishable by death.
Nope, never had a problem. But I never said I did. Yes, one of my very best chldhood friends is Muslim. My best friend on the other hand had a Turkish roomate in college who (when 9/11 was going on live on the TV) came up to him and said he and America deserved it. Needless to say, the altercation landed my friend in jail, and that POS close to meeting his maker. There are all kinds of Americans, and all kinds of Jews, all kinds of Catholics, born agains, and the list goes on and on. There's an asshole in everyone of those groups. Anyway, when the police found out what caused the altercation, Turkey boy found himself deported, and my buddy was released with no charges.
They are the same people, that participate in, or remain silent, when people like gworld and AC go about their daily anti-Christian tirades. When they display their persistent displeasure/hatred for Christians, the likes of ferret and yo-yo will never raise the "racist" card. In fact, they will even participate. yo-yo's hated is more directed at Jews in general, though he's never had a bad word for a terrorist. Don't sweat it. It's just part of their hypocrisy. When Christians are under attack, these same people will never use "all" as a common denominator to place Christians or Jews under the same umbrella. Only when it is islam. Nor will they raise the racist card on themselves. Then there are the fence sitters. These are the ones who, only when islam is the focus, come out of the woodworks with "not all are {insert something clueless here}," as if all must be the condition before recognizing a problem, but when Christians or Jews are the focus, are as scarce as a female driver in Saudi Arabia. Just like in court with the late Johnny Cochran, when he had nothing else to stand on, he invoked the race card. It's a tactic to take the focus off themselves and put the focus on you. Just put the focus back on them, where it belongs. Above all, never forget that a number of these you are dealing with are young angry white males with low IQs that get their misinformation from the likes of Alex Jones. That unto itself, is always worth a laugh
Oh, Oh, I see Mia... it's ok for your friend to get violent and "almost kill" someone when they insult america.... but it's evil terrorist ragheads if they get violent when someone insults they're spiritual leader.... I'm not surprised.. you've held biased double standards in almost every post you've made. Maybe now it's just a little clearer to everyone else
Here we go again.. Way the hell off topic and direct from the 3rd grade. Go away man.. Isn't Dora on.
I think the problem comes in - what is blasphemy? Seems the threshold for blasphemy is very low in islamic culture so almost anyone can be put to death for something.
I challenge you to find 1 (just 1 Gtech) instance where I said : a) that i hated jews b) used an ethnic or racist slur about jews You'll never find it, because I never said it. Unlike your pals Bama and ly2 I don't find it neccessary to run around yelling racist things like "raghead" to prove my point, I use facts ...
it also says in the bible people who work on sundays should be stoned, just to keep things in perspective