uh oh...i predict big riots (Muhammed cartoons)

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  1. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #221
    Anthony doesn't like the country he immigrated to. He has this fantasy that he speaks for everyone by his often referenced "we" in everything, but it's really "him."

    Let a Christian fart in Church, and he can hardly contain himself with "false prophets," "sunday killers," "religious zealots."

    When a 16 year old girl gets stoned to death for being raped, he surely has an excuse for the behavior.

    Mental illness is really sad :(
     
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  2. ROAR

    ROAR Well-Known Member Affiliate Manager

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    #222
    Bullshit---directed @ Arnie
     
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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #223
    The amounts of prejudice, descrimination and outright ignorance in the last 11 pages of this topic would surprise me, but then I remembered all the prejudice, descrimination and outright ignorance I've seen in every political and religious thread here and now this is just another on the big list.

    Don't expect relations between the US and the mid-east to get any better with Bush in office, and don't expect relations between Christians and Muslims to get any better with ignorant people being the majority of both groups :rolleyes:
     
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  4. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #224
    Good findings Gtech
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    by Harlem artist "Tafa". It depicts an upside down Christ-like figure with a face strongly resembling Osama Bin Laden. The email read in part, "This is outrageous. This is an attack against my religion. How can an artist go so low? Most people are outraged, most Christians."

    On the phone with me, the artist declined to do an on-camera interview, telling me the work speaks for itself, but adding, the resemblance to Bin Laden was no accident.
     
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    anthonycea Banned

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    #225
    More insane idiotic Republican pathological propaganda lies from GTech, then he wonders why Americans hate Republicans and why we are hated as a nation worldwide, it is because they are filthy liars :D
     
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    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #226
    I'd suggest you educate yourself about a theme first before posting senseless stuff.
     
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    #227
    Not with Republican Nazi's like GTech around will peace ever happen, he and John Bolton are butt buddies :p :D
     
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    ROAR Well-Known Member Affiliate Manager

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    #228
    point noted---

    BULLSHIT
     
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    #229
    Pat Robertson said to "take the leader of Argentina out" GTech and to fight for our 51st state :D

    He is a Republican Nazi :eek: :p
     
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    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #230
    Is this your answer of not having an arguement or proof otherwise?
    If so, stay away from discussion, you're not mature to join.;)
     
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  11. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #231
    See, there's that "we!"

    You may be hated as a person, but don't include me in your we.
     
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  12. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #232
    Pretend he is muslim. I'm sure you can find an excuse for him then.
     
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    #233
    You're right GTech, you are not an American, you are a Nazi :D

    Kill em all GTech, just like Hitler wanted to! :D

    When they are exterminated there will only be the pure race to repopulate the earth :D

    Remember what your savior that you claim to believe in said GTech, blessed are the peace makers......

    But you just claim you are a man of God, it is not really the case, sort of like Pat Roberston makes the false claim too!
     
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    ROAR Well-Known Member Affiliate Manager

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    #234

    Son are you in jest?

    Hitler/Jesuit dont go together. Sorry. That story doesnt even work in Sweden.

    Have you ever heard about the little engine that could...go to bed.
     
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    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #235
    the style is quite similar and the catholic church hasen't dealt with this issue yet. Ok, ok now its the Opus Dei

    The Jesuit Oath Exposed

    "Go ye, then, into all the world and take possession of all lands in the name of the Pope. He who will not accept him as the Vicar of Jesus and his Vice-Regent on earth, let him be accursed and exterminated."
    [FONT=Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica]Professor Arthur Noble [/FONT]

    [FONT=Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica][The following is the text of the Jesuit Extreme Oath of Induction as recorded in the Journals of the 62nd Congress, 3rd Session, of the United States Congressional Record (House Calendar No. 397, Report No. 1523, 15 February, 1913, pp. 3215-3216), from which it was subsequently torn out. The Oath is also quoted by Charles Didier in his book Subterranean Rome (New York, 1843), translated from the French original. Dr. Alberto Rivera, who escaped from the Jesuit Order in 1967, confirms that the induction ceremony and the text of the Jesuit Oath which he took were identical to what we have cited below. – A. N.]
    When a Jesuit of the minor rank is to be elevated to command, he is conducted into the Chapel of the Convent of the Order, where there are only three others present, the principal or Superior standing in front of the altar. On either side stands a monk, one of whom holds a banner of yellow and white, which are the Papal colours, and the other a black banner with a dagger and red cross above a skull and crossbones, with the word INRI, and below them the words IUSTUM NECAR REGES IMPIUS. The meaning of which is: It is just to exterminate or annihilate impious or heretical Kings, Governments, or Rulers.
    Upon the floor is a red cross at which the postulant or candidate kneels. The Superior hands him a small black crucifix, which he takes in his left hand and presses to his heart, and the Superior at the same time presents to him a dagger, which he grasps by the blade and holds the point against his heart, the Superior still holding it by the hilt, and thus addresses the postulant:
    (The Superior speaks:)
    My son, heretofore you have been taught to act the dissembler: among Roman Catholics to be a Roman Catholic, and to be a spy even among your own brethren; to believe no man, to trust no man. Among the Reformers, to be a Reformer; among the Huguenots, to be a Huguenot; among the Calvinists, to be a Calvinist; among other Protestants, generally to be a Protestant; and obtaining their confidence, to seek even to preach from their pulpits, and to denounce with all the vehemence in your nature our Holy Religion and the Pope; and even to descend so low as to become a Jew among Jews, that you might be enabled to gather together all information for the benefit of your Order as a faithful soldier of the Pope. You have been taught to plant insidiously the seeds of jealousy and hatred between communities, provinces, states that were at peace, and to incite them to deeds of blood, involving them in war with each other, and to create revolutions and civil wars in countries that were independent and prosperous, cultivating the arts and the sciences and enjoying the blessings of peace; to take sides with the combatants and to act secretly with your brother Jesuit, who might be engaged on the other side, but openly opposed to that with which you might be connected, only that the Church might be the gainer in the end, in the conditions fixed in the treaties for peace and that the end justifies the means. You have been taught your duty as a spy, to gather all statistics, facts and information in your power from every source; to ingratiate yourself into the confidence of the family circle of Protestants and heretics of every class and character, as well as that of the merchant, the banker, the lawyer, among the schools and universities, in parliaments and legislatures, and the judiciaries and councils of state, and to be all things to all men, for the Pope's sake, whose servants we are unto death. You have received all your instructions heretofore as a novice, a neophyte, and have served as co-adjurer, confessor and priest, but you have not yet been invested with all that is necessary to command in the Army of Loyola in the service of the Pope. You must serve the proper time as the instrument and executioner as directed by your superiors; for none can command here who has not consecrated his labours with the blood of the heretic; for "without the shedding of blood no man can be saved". Therefore, to fit yourself for your work and make your own salvation sure, you will, in addition to your former oath of obedience to your order and allegiance to the Pope, repeat after me:
    (Text of the Oath:)
    I_______________ , now in the presence of Almighty God, the blessed Virgin Mary, the blessed St. John the Baptist, the Holy Apostles, St. Peter and St. Paul, and all the saints, sacred host of Heaven, and to you, my Ghostly Father, the superior general of the Society of Jesus, founded by St. Ignatius Loyola, in the pontification of Paul the Third, and continued to the present, do by the womb of the Virgin, the matrix of God, and the rod of Jesus Christ, declare and swear that His Holiness, the Pope, is Christ's Vice-Regent and is the true and only head of the Catholic or Universal Church throughout the earth; and that by the virtue of the keys of binding and loosing given to His Holiness by my Saviour, Jesus Christ, he hath power to depose heretical Kings, Princes, States, Commonwealths, and Governments, and they may be safely destroyed. Therefore to the utmost of my power I will defend this doctrine and His Holiness's right and custom against all usurpers of the heretical or Protestant authority whatever, especially the Lutheran Church of Germany, Holland, Denmark, Sweden and Norway, and the now pretended authority and Churches of England and Scotland, and the branches of same now established in Ireland and on the continent of America and elsewhere and all adherents in regard that they may be usurped and heretical, opposing the sacred Mother Church of Rome. I do now denounce and disown any allegiance as due to any heretical king, prince or State, named Protestant or Liberal, or obedience to any of their laws, magistrates or officers. I do further declare the doctrine of the Churches of England and Scotland of the Calvinists, Huguenots, and others of the name of Protestants or Masons to be damnable, and they themselves to be damned who will not forsake the same. I do further declare that I will help, assist, and advise all or any of His Holiness's agents, in any place where I should be, in Switzerland, Germany, Holland, Ireland or America, or in any other kingdom or territory I shall come to, and do my utmost to extirpate the heretical Protestant or Masonic doctrines and to destroy all their pretended powers, legal or otherwise. I do further promise and declare that, notwithstanding, I am dispensed with to assume any religion heretical for the propagation of the Mother Church's interest; to keep secret and private all her agents' counsels from time to time, as they entrust me, and not to divulge, directly or indirectly, by word, writing or circumstances whatever; but to execute all that should be proposed, given in charge, or discovered unto me by you, my Ghostly Father, or any of this sacred order. I do further promise and declare that I will have no opinion or will of my own or any mental reservation whatever, even as a corpse or cadaver (perinde ac cadaver), but will unhesitatingly obey each and every command that I may receive from my superiors in the militia of the Pope and of Jesus Christ. That I will go to any part of the world whithersoever I may be sent, to the frozen regions north, jungles of India, to the centres of civilisation of Europe, or to the wild haunts of the barbarous savages of America without murmuring or repining, and will be submissive in all things, whatsoever is communicated to me. I do further promise and declare that I will, when opportunity presents, make and wage relentless war, secretly and openly, against all heretics, Protestants and Masons, as I am directed to do, to extirpate them from the face of the whole earth; and that I will spare neither age, sex nor condition, and that will hang, burn, waste, boil, flay, strangle, and bury alive these infamous heretics; rip up the stomachs and wombs of their women, and crush their infants' heads against the walls in order to annihilate their execrable race. That when the same cannot be done openly I will secretly use the poisonous cup, the strangulation cord, the steel of the poniard, or the leaden bullet, regardless of the honour, rank, dignity or authority of the persons, whatever may be their condition in life, either public or private, as I at any time may be directed so to do by any agents of the Pope or Superior of the Brotherhood of the Holy Father of the Society of Jesus. In confirmation of which I hereby dedicate my life, soul, and all corporal powers, and with the dagger which I now receive I will subscribe my name written in my blood in testimony thereof; and should I prove false, or weaken in my determination, may my brethren and fellow soldiers of the militia of the Pope cut off my hands and feet and my throat from ear to ear, my belly be opened and sulphur burned therein with all the punishment that can be inflicted upon me on earth, and my soul shall be tortured by demons in eternal hell forever. That I will in voting always vote for a Knight of Columbus in preference to a Protestant, especially a Mason, and that I will leave my party so to do; that if two Catholics are on the ticket I will satisfy myself which is the better supporter of Mother Church and vote accordingly. That I will not deal with or employ a Protestant if in my power to deal with or employ a Catholic. That I will place Catholic girls in Protestant families that a weekly report may be made of the inner movements of the heretics. That I will provide myself with arms and ammunition that I may be in readiness when the word is passed, or I am commanded to defend the Church either as an individual or with the militia of the Pope. All of which I,_______________, do swear by the blessed Trinity and blessed sacrament which I am now to receive to perform and on part to keep this my oath. In testimony hereof, I take this most holy and blessed sacrament of the Eucharist and witness the same further with my name written with the point of this dagger dipped in my own blood and seal in the face of this holy sacrament.
    (He receives the wafer from the Superior and writes his name with the point of his dagger dipped in his own blood taken from over his heart.)
    (Superior speaks:)
    You will now rise to your feet and I will instruct you in the Catechism necessary to make yourself known to any member of the Society of Jesus belonging to this rank. In the first place, you, as a Brother Jesuit, will with another mutually make the ordinary sign of the cross as any ordinary Roman Catholic would; then one crosses his wrists, the palms of his hands open, and the other in answer crosses his feet, one above the other; the first points with forefinger of the right hand to the centre of the palm of the left, the other with the forefinger of the left hand points to the centre of the palm of the right; the first then with his right hand makes a circle around his head, touching it; the other then with the forefinger of his left hand touches the left side of his body just below his heart; the first then with his right hand draws it across the throat of the other, and the latter then with a dagger down the stomach and abdomen of the first. The first then says Iustum; and the other answers Necar; the first Reges; the other answers Impious. The first will then present a small piece of paper folded in a peculiar manner, four times, which the other will cut longitudinally and on opening the name Jesu will be found written upon the head and arms of a cross three times. You will then give and receive with him the following questions and answers:
    From whither do you come? Answer: The Holy faith.
    Whom do you serve? Answer: The Holy Father at Rome, the Pope, and the Roman Catholic Church Universal throughout the world.
    Who commands you? Answer: The Successor of St. Ignatius Loyola, the founder of the Society of Jesus or the Soldiers of Jesus Christ.
    Who received you? Answer: A venerable man in white hair.
    How? Answer: With a naked dagger, I kneeling upon the cross beneath the banners of the Pope and of our sacred order.
    Did you take an oath? Answer: I did, to destroy heretics and their governments and rulers, and to spare neither age, nor sex, nor condition; to be as a corpse without any opinion or will of my own, but to implicitly obey my Superiors in all things without hesitation or murmuring.
    Will you do that? Answer: I will.
    How do you travel? Answer: In the bark of Peter the fisherman.
    Whither do you travel? Answer: To the four quarters of the globe.
    For what purpose? Answer: To obey the orders of my General and Superiors and execute the will of the Pope and faithfully fulfil the conditions of my oaths.
    Go ye, then, into all the world and take possession of all lands in the name of the Pope. He who will not accept him as the Vicar of Jesus and his Vice-Regent on earth, let him be accursed and exterminated.
    [Note: The following books on (or particularly relevant to) the Jesuits are held by the EIPS Library:
    Anon.: The Female Jesuit. London, 1851
    Anon.: The Mystery of Jesuitism. London, 1658
    Anon.: The Secret Instructions of the Jesuits. London, 1824
    Anon.: The Secret Instructions of the Jesuits. London, 1824
    Barrett, E.B.: The Jesuit Enigma. London, 1929
    Barthel, M: The Jesuits. New York, 1984
    Bert, M.P.: Gury's Doctrines of the Jesuits. London, 1947
    Blakeney, R.P.: Alphonsus Liguori. London, 1852
    Brodrick, J., S.J.: The Origin of the Jesuits. New York, 1960
    Bungener, L.L.F.: The Jesuits in France or The Priest and the Huguenot. London, 1859
    Coape, H.C.: In a Jesuit Net. London, no date
    Dalton, E.: The Jesuits. London, 1843
    De Courson, R.: Concerning Jesuits. London, 1902
    Gallahue, J.: The Jesuit. New York, 1973
    Goodier, A.: The Jesuits. London, 1929
    Griesinger, T.: History of the Jesuits. London, 1903
    Groves, H.C.: The Doctrines and Practices of the Jesuits. London, 1889
    Hanna, S.: Jesuitism: or Catholic Action. Belfast, 1938
    Hastings, M.: Jesuit Child. Newton Abbot, 1972
    Hillerbrand, H.: The Reformation. A Narrative History related by Contemporary Observers and Participants. Ann Arbor, 1989
    Lathbury, T.: The State of Popery and Jesuitism in England. London, 1838
    Lehmann, L.H.: The Secret of Catholic Power. New York, no date
    Liguori, A.M.: The Council of Trent. Dublin, 1846
    MacPherson, H.: The Jesuits in History. London, 1914
    Martin, M.: The Jesuits. New York, 1987
    Nicolini, G.B.: History of the Jesuits. London, 1854
    Paisley, I.R.K.: The Jesuits. Belfast, no date
    Paris, E.: The Secret History of the Jesuits. London, 1975
    Ridley, F.A.: The Jesuits: A Study in Counter-Revolution. London, 1938
    Roberts, Archbishop, S.J.: Black Popes. London, 1954
    Robertson, A.: The Roman Catholic Church in Italy. London, 1903
    Seebohm, F.: The Epoch of the Protestant Reformation. London, 1877
    Seymour, M.H.: Mornings among the Jesuits at Rome. London, 1850
    Steinmetz, A.: History of the Jesuits. London, 1848 (3 Vols.)
    Walsh, W.: The Jesuits in Great Britain. New York, 1903
    Wild, J.: Canada and the Jesuits. Toronto, 1889
    Wylie, J.A.: Jesuitism: Its Rise, Progress and Insidious Workings. London, no date
    Ybarra, T.R. (translator): The Kaiser's Memoirs, by Wilhelm II. New York, 1922]
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #236
    But nothing about "blessed are the nutjobs" ;)

    Seen any good riots lately?
     
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    anthonycea Banned

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    #237
    So what is your point dude, the Jesuits are a militant branch of the Catholic church man!
     
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    ROAR Well-Known Member Affiliate Manager

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    #238
    and that makes Hitler of a Jesuit education, how?
     
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    anthonycea Banned

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    #239
    Quit talking about your religion GTech because blessing nut jobs is what Bush does when he goes to a Republican rally! :D :p :p
     

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    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #240
    He was raced at a Jesuit school and he addmited that he learned from the Jesuits and that this is the only thing he was thankful about the catholic church.
     
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