Ugly Face of Western Media

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by newbie191, Jun 11, 2010.

  1. iggysick

    iggysick Guest

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    #21
    According to link I've posted it seems that you are deliberately dishonest.
    And actually you are "going in circles".
     
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  2. DevilHellz

    DevilHellz Well-Known Member

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    #22
    Please elaborate and show me how am I being dishonest ;)
     
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  3. iggysick

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    #23
    According to link i've posted and which you didn't disputed as false pedophilia is accepted in Judaizam amd I would take a wild guess that Judaizam is accepted in Israel. So, saying that you don't live in place where pedophilia is accepted is dishonesty.
     
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  4. DevilHellz

    DevilHellz Well-Known Member

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    #24
    Pedophilia is not accepted in Israel. Pedophiles get arrested and do time in jail.
    Average age of marriage for men is 27, and for women 25 in Israel according to 2007 stats (Israeli arabs probably lower the age of women in the statistics, btw).
    Wedding minors outside the present constraints of the law is a criminal offense. I am 100% the religious freaks here do wed minors, and there are cases of pedophilia amongst the religious communities which are very closed. This doesn't mean pedophilia is accepted in Israel.
    The closed religious groups I'm speaking about are called "Haridim" (the ones that wear black coats and hats, beards and stuff like that), which conclude 7% (as of 2006) of the Jewish population.

    I still can't see where I'm being dishonest?
     
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  5. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #25
    Keep on making the ad hominem attacks, it makes you look really childish and silly even though it has nothing whatsoever to do with the discourse. Or, in your own words: a "cartoon character".
     
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  6. newbie191

    newbie191 Notable Member

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    #26
    It appears that whenever our Islamophobic 'friends' are unable to think of a logical reply they reply with arrogance, personal attacks and start their usual mockery stuff. To all those please keep your personal fights and grievances outside of this thread and focus on this topic here.

    Isn't this the worst shape of hypocrisy when they call themselves the champions of free speech and all that but allow it only as long as they themselves agree to it. That so called "freedom of speech" has always been used against Muslims. When we reply in same manner they act like bloody hypocrites..
     
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    robjones Notable Member

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    #27
    Gee, let's reconsider for a sec Newbie.

    - You're the one in favor of banning facebook because they wouldnt censor material with which you disagree...
    - You're the one telling others to shut up about an issue that makes the guys with the blue avatar look gullible...

    ...but YOU are the one championing free speech?

    Rofl. Right. :)
     
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  8. Darpie

    Darpie Peon

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    #28
    I dont think many people are religious in Israel, but either way both Judaism and Islam are nonsense so let's look a look at Islam:

    Sahih Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64:
    Narrated 'Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).

    Pedophilia. This is Muhammad's example, he married a six year old and had sex with her when she was nine, and he is to be held up as the ultimate model of conduct for all Muslims, as it says here in the Quran:

    Quran 33:21:
    Ye have indeed in the Messenger of God a beautiful pattern (of conduct) for any one whose hope is in God and the Final Day, and who engages much in the Praise of God.

    It seems pedophilia cannot be separated from Islam and from the minds of Muslims.


    And look here just the other day a Muslim child bride being beaten for trying to run away: http://afghanistan.blogs.cnn.com/2010/06/10/shelter-tries-to-help-abused-child-brides/?hpt=C2
     
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    gauharjk Notable Member

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    #29
    Darpie, you are wrong. Prophet Muhammad never married a 6 year old. That hadith is very weak and is in all probability false. Sahih Bukhari is not even a single manuscript, but a collection of more than a dozen manuscripts, compiled more than 200 years after the death of Prophet Muhammad. And Imam Bukhari, who compiled the manuscripts, could not complete it in his lifetime. After his death, his research was brought together. Then there were more additions and corrections to it and it took many more centuries to compile this thing.

    Remember --- The Prophet died on 633 AD -> Bukhari died on 870 AD -> Sahih Bukhari finally formed on around 1200 AD. Hence the gap of time between the era of the Prophet and the Sahih Bukhari is not less than 600 years

    So, don't quote some weird obscure hadith, coz it means nothing.
     
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    #30
    now you are taking sense. phew.

    more enlightment on the way. make use of your brain a bit more.
     
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  11. newbie191

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    #31

    Don't you think that discrimination here by Facebook is clearly evident when they didn't delete a page which clearly violated their TOS. (ignites anger among the muslim community) Facebook didn't delete that page which was created for the sole purpose of annoy/anger muslims.
    While they will most definitely delete any page which denies holocaust or any other page which annoys/angers jews or other people.
     
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    #32
    Actually, this has been up for a good length of time.
    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Every...0-June-2010/125126400846347?v=wall&ref=search
     
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    #33
    and Jews, Blacks, Guys, Communists, Martians etc.

    Maybe because deniers of holocaust are liars and that's why garbage is getting deleted?

    What is your point anyway?

    :confused:

    fastreplies
     
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  14. iggysick

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    #34
    So basicly you admit that 7% of Israeli population accepts pedophilia as normal?
     
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    #35
    It's inaccurate to assume that the whole group of people which are included in the 7% accept pedophilia, but I'm sure many of them don't see a problem with that. Sick bastards.
    Your point?
     
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    #36
    But how we can't assume that if their religion teaches them that?
     
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    #37
    lol how can you say for sure that all those people accept that age as being ok to marry? note that child marriage is not an issue in israel but only the islamic world.
     
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    #38
    But you guys saying that for muslims all the time...
     
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  19. DevilHellz

    DevilHellz Well-Known Member

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    #39
    Again I ask, where the heck is your point? Why assume that their religion teaches them that? Read the Torah and see if it teaches them that or not.
    If you haven't realized up until now (I assume you can be slow sometimes, it's alright), I am not a religious person. So I'm not defending these 7% of people. Are you anxiously expecting me to defend them.. or what?
     
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  20. DevilHellz

    DevilHellz Well-Known Member

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    #40
    Ah, I see where's the problem :)
    Our friend moreplayerz is not educated enough to know the difference between being Jewish and following Judaism.
    Moreplayerz, there are Jews who are not religious, ya know (Majority of the population in Israel)? Are there any muslims that are not religious ? :D
     
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