Ubuntu vs Windows

Emulation ( Wine ). While it might not be as easy to maintain as someone would want it to be, it's still [ in most cases ] possible.

Bullshit. If I would ask you to name 20 applications that are available on Windows and not Linux, I'll reconsider revising my opinion.

If government institutions can, why couldn't you ? Yes, there are a few cases when it's irreplaceable but that's just a drop in the ocean.

 

lol
I have just typed a long post to discuss with you, but after finish, google chrome ask me to login again =)). And I lost my job done !
May be the god isn't allow us to discuss anymore

 

Go to Youtube and type in any of the most popular games with the words "on Ubuntu" or "on Wine" , and you'll see the number of them that actually work in Ubuntu, through the Linux Windows compatibility layer known as Wine. Add to that Photoshop and other popular premium softwares.

Like I said earlier, it's a myth that a gamer would not get on just fine using Ubuntu/Linux. Anyone who plays game but does not wish to dual boot Ubuntu with Windows can actually manage quite well if they are willing to understand how to use Wine, or PlayonLinux. PlayonLinux... that is another one to mention. It has a list of pre-configurations for the most popular Windows games, so one can easily install them without too much hassle.

Performance wise, Linux does a better than Windows in that respect. I play both Fifa 08 and San Andreas in Ubuntu using Wine to run them. The graphics in both games look sharper than in Windows. Performance were about the same as in Windows for both.

Don't you know that Linux is much faster than Windows, as Linux uses fewer resources? How then would you expect resource hungry Windows to out perform Linux?

 

It seems that all of the people who like ubuntu don't give a darn about videogames because they are productive enough not to really care about them. I don't mean to offend, but I would guess that most of the windows lovers are younger than the ubuntu users.

Yep.

It's the main thing that the people on this thread who love windows do. I, myself, play some windows games like civilization every now and then but I own a windows laptop to do that on (as well as for whatever windows specific stuff I have to do). I almost never use that laptop outside of those purposes and portability. I even have it dual-booted in case I have to use linux portably.

Someone needs to make a gaming consol with a mouse. that would be epic. ('m not being sarcastic, I'm being serious. Someone needs to do that so you can play cilivization on your Nintendo)

I didn't know that. That's epic.

Do you think the majority is always superior to the minority? Not very many people are rich, but almost all rich people have done more to benefit society than the average working man. Clearly they are doing something right that all of us (comparatively) poor folks didn't think to do. I submit to you that the users of windows are the ignorant majority.

What's your hits per day?

When you put those words together it sounds nice, but I'm sure you haven't even tried it yourself.

To add to that, android is actually linux based.

or a Mac. Many games work without anything like Wine in Mac OS.

Normally it does, however, I have no clue if the fact that it's running in wine would decrease its performance. Do you think that would be a problem?

 

I choose windows: My favorite: Windows 7

 

No, you didn't chose windows. The individual or company that put windows on your computer chose windows for you.

 

Most of the people dismissing Ubuntu in this thread have never actually used it, or if they had, they have never used it for a considerable amount of time to form a balance opinion. You are being bias if you criticise something you don't really know about.

I was sticking with Windows just because I thought my only other great option was a Mac, which I thought was too far out of my reach price-wise. When I found out how user-friendly Ubuntu was, and how well it could meet all my needs, the switch was quite easy.

 

Most of them probobly thought "what's an obonto? I have windows on my comp so an obonto sucks." Many of the posts on this thread were one-liners that didn't even name a specific operating system other than windows. My guess is that they have no earthly idea what they're talking about.

And yeah, Macs are overpriced. If only apple made it easier to put their operating system on non-apple hardware. If they did that then I'd definitely buy a copy and dual -boot it so that I'd have the operating system if I needed to test/write software on it.

 

they are not. Apple guarantees their hardware and software all work together seamlessly. Find any other computer company that does that. Plus, OS updates are far cheaper. Wasn't the last one only $10? consumer Reports rates them the best, most reliable computer in every category for many years. try and get that from Microsoft, HP, Dell, etc. And just try and find a Microsoft or Dell store for repairs.

Then you're throwing all those guarantees out and Apple has to become an all purpose OS that satisfies all hardware. Then you become the monstrosity that Windows has become.

 

regardless, many people don't want to shell out 1k for a laptop and 2k for a desktop.

Cheaper than what? Windows? Windows isn't very good anyway.

Let me see... how much did it cost me to update Ubuntu 10.04 to 10.10? I'll get back to you on that after I dig out the receipt.

Regardless, it's still expensive. Obviously they're going to rate the expensive stuff #1 in quality.

I've never used apple support before, but usually those repair places charge as much or more for a repair than to buy a new product.

Ubuntu's done a good job of having wide compatibility without becoming a Microsoft-like monstrosity.

 

But pay for support with time and money. Not needed with a Mac when you add software/hardware.

30x cheaper.

Again, Mac guarantees everything works together. Perfect for consumers. Ubuntu/Canonical does not and when things don't work it's up to you to find support. Just like Windows.

You don't have a clue how fiercely independent CR works then and how wrong your statement is.

But you have a place to take it versus nothing at all. Most people I know bring their equipment in IF it breaks but, as CR notes, that rarely happens.

But, again, you get no guarantees and support/installation/troubleshooting is up to you. Microsoft is successful only due to tie-ins with hardware manufacturers who pre-install everything for consumers. But the manufacturers don't guarantee software and Microsoft doesn't guarantee hardware. Apple does both. Ubuntu does neither. This is why Apple is perfect for consumers because it's a one-stop shop for everything. No one else is.

Ubuntu is good for those who don't mind doing minor tinkering with their system and are somewhat computer literate. Windows is a tool for selling software to consumers who like being told how to think. Apple products just work.

Before you or anyone think I'm anti/pro anything, I have not used Windows in over 3 years. I don't own a Mac though I have two iPads. Everything I do runs on FreeBSD. I ran Ubuntu till last week when I converted that box over to CentOS (a Linux distro because my host uses it).

 

bro! u are very much right about basic linux, but i m talking about Ubunto. its linux based os. the basic purpose of ubunto or fedora is to serve the end user and become popular, what u are talking about good quality and computer needs, its about Linux Enterprise Edition. Red Hat company is doing that. the main concern of Red Hat Enterprise Linux series is exactly what u have explained, they are quality concious. not quantity or popularity. but as for as other free versions are concerned like ubunto, or fedora , these flavours are for End user, full of graphics, and to give all those facilites which microsfot's windows is providing, and they are very much succeded in it. as far as server side is concerned, Windows Server edition is nowhere close to RedHat Enterprise Linux.....

 

If you don't even own a MAC then why are you so quick to praise if?

 

No comparison, windows wins!! Although devs love playing around with Ubuntu.

 

Why should I diss a good product?

 

You shouldn't, but you're talking about Macs as if you actually have experienced their customer support, which you haven't. I have no idea how good or bad Macs all. It's just really, really expensive for a computer.

 

Oh, but I have business partners and employees who have, who own Macs, and I read far more than the average human does. What I hear and what I read isn't as important as the trends I capture and that's a skill of mine. I can detect trends in the market place long before anyone notices. In 2001, I noticed the turnaround of Apple and predicted they would become what they are today. I also forecast the rise of Firefox back when it had only 7% market share and the demise of IE. I bought into a certain fast food chain when they had less than 2000 units. Now they have over 30,000. But all that's OT.

 

I guess that's a fair point.

What was it that you predicted specifically? That they would grow substantially, I assume?

[/quote]I bought into a certain fast food chain when they had less than 2000 units. Now they have over 30,000. But all that's OT.[/quote]Mind saying what chain?

And what experiences have your coworkers had with apple support?

 

I will go with windows!!!!

 

Yes and I missed out on a wonderful stock opportunity. I debated buying 10K shares of Apple at $10/share. Today, Apple stock is at $338/share.

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It's been a few months but we hardly ever hear about problems. They like to snicker at those who can't get things to work or, when parts break, fret over what to do to get it fixed. I just remember the last guy having a problem with his keyboard or his notebook lid (spilled drink?) and dropping it off at the Apple store. Like I said, my company runs on FreeBSD so we mainly hear this from the graphics/design guys and, now, one theatre company that runs entirely on Macs.