U.S. officials identify Fort Hood Attack Terrorist as Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan

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  1. bogart

    bogart Notable Member

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    #101
    Senator Joe Liberman calls for investigation into "worst terrorist attack since 9/11"

    Major Nidal Hasan warned a roomful of senior Army physicians a year and a half ago that to avoid "adverse events," the military should allow Muslim soldiers to be released as conscientious objectors instead of fighting in wars against other Muslims.

    Here is the power point presentation that Hasan presented to the military:


    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/gallery/2009/11/10/GA2009111000920.html
     
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    #102
    The sad part... everyone keeps saying he was mentally imbalanced, disturbed, etc... but his posts on the net are indistinguishable from a lotta folks here. Gee, what does that tell us? :-p

    Dont take my word for it, read what he said.

    I understand he's in the hospital. Are we missing anyone?
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #103
    Thanks for posting that link. Looking at all of those slides it is shocking to me that Hasan was not more closely watched.

    He makes a pretty good case why Muslims who believe in Islam (as he clearly describes it using verses from the Koran) are a potential danger to the United States. His words are damning. I have a hard time disagreeing with his analysis.

    Somebody really screwed up not stopping this guy sooner - the warning signs seem glaringly obvious.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #104
    So truly spoken by a person who never even managed to have a Lieutenant rank. ;)

    I am sure the guys in the corporate mail rooms also think that they run the company, after all if they don't divide the mail, how the company is going to function? :rolleyes: It is very interesting that most loud mouth chicken hawks never achieve that much in their life. ;)
     
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  5. bogart

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    #105
    The Military is more concerned with being politically correct than defending the troops. General Casey made a statement after the Ft Hood terrorist attack that he's concerned that there may be a backlash against muslims.

    This case is really crazy in that the FBI intercepted 10 to 20 emails btween Major Nidal Hasan and al Qaeda Iman Anwar al-Awlaki. Anwar al-Awlaki is also a US citizen on the run in Yemen and wanted for questioning by the FBI for his connection to 3 of 19 9-11 highjackers.
     
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    earlpearl Well-Known Member

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    #106
    General Casey is not concerned about "political correctness", Bogart.

    Since the early part of this decade, the military is painfully aware the US needs to recruit more Muslims. We need Muslims with regard to the ongoing wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    It has nothing to do with correctness. It has everything to do with making our military better capable of figuring out the enemy.

    Its simply not easy. From the points that have been brought up to date, its clear that this guy Hasan was connecting, listening, and associating with the worst elements of Islam. There were plenty of times when he should have been watched more closely, identified, pulled out. They didn't get him when they should have.

    That mistake was horrendously costly, beyond words.

    Its a tough process. The US military wants and needs American Muslims to be part of the process of fighting our enemies. On the other hand we obviously need to know how these folks with valuable knowledge and skills that we need, are clearly and strongly in favor of our views and ideals and are not taken in by the fundamentalist Islamic perspective.

    Don't call it political correctness. Don't handcuff the needs of the military with simplistic political cr@p, that can work against our most critical needs.

    The military has a tough road moving forward. Its simply not easy.
     
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    #108
    What a fantasy op-ed. Did frodo make it to mount doom?
     
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  9. bogart

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    #109
    The Fort Hood Terrorist Attack is first terrorist attack on Americal soil since 9/11. 12 dead and 31 wounded.

    General Casey statements are wrong. He is more interested in protecting his politically correct career than the facts.

    http://armylive.dodlive.mil/index.php/2009/11/gen-casey-on-the-strength-of-our-diversity/


    Lets face it. Major Hasan was a Jihadist.

    1. Hasan's statement before he began shooting was "Allahu Akbar"
    2. Hasan's made statements in support of Islamic suicide bombings including a powerpoint presentation to members of the US military and internet postings.
    3. FBI knew that Hasan sent 10 to 20 e-mails to several al-Qaeda members, including Anwar Aulaqi, a radical imam from Virginia who has been openly propagandizing for al Qaeda in Yemen and who had ties to several of the 9/11 hijackers


    Congress needs to investigate how polical correctness and the stuff that Attorney General Holder is doing influenced the Army and FBI no to take action to protect the American troops.
     
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  10. earlpearl

    earlpearl Well-Known Member

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    #110
    When the Extremist Right Wing screams something like "political correctness" it is an effort to politicize something that is far too complex.

    Its also extremely serious. Serious and complex. Nobody wants fundamentalist Islamics shooting up anyone let alone unarmed American soldiers in Fort Hood.

    OTOH, the military wants Muslims in their ranks. That has nothing to do with correctness. It has everything to do with effectively communicating with the natives where we are fighting. In fact, that last attribute is critical.

    I haven't read up on this thing like a hawk, scrutinizing every detail. Last report I heard/read said something on how Doctors in the DC area where Hasan was stationed debated his "mental health" for over a year.

    Crap. He should have been reported. He wasn't. Deadly mistake. Don't make it into something it wasn't. Don't label it for political reasons.

    Great examples of political labeling from the Right:

    Obama is taking time trying to figure out how to move forward on Afghanistan.

    Smiling Dick Cheney labels it "dithering". Hmmm. I seem to vividly recall President Bush taking months trying to figure out what to do in Iraq, prior to adding troops.

    That period of study never got a political label.

    Political labeling.....its all about politics and has nothing to do with substance.
     
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  11. Reseg

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    #111
    As far as him being reported, he clearly was. I was watching Lou Dobbs last night and he was talking about this. Here are the transcripts:

    By "statements" he's referring to things Hasan had been saying.

    Source
     
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    #113
    So, if every killing by a Muslim against a White is a terrorist attack...

    by your logic...

    every killing by a White against a Muslim is a racist attack.
     
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    #114
    He didn't say anything about whites did he?

    Didn't think so.
     
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    #115
    He didn't just happen to be a Muslim - Islam was the motivation and the impetus for his murder spree.
     
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    #116
    Actually, he did.

    He agreed that white is right, and non-white is wrong.

    So, there you go.
     
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    #117
    Where did he agree to that?
     
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    #118
    Post #37 and #49

    He thinks whites are good and non-whites are bad.

    Muslims believe in Islam and he believes in racism.

    Therefore, in his mind, all Muslims are terrorists, therefore all whites are racists.
     
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    #119
    Really? I think you missed his sarcasm even though he gave you information right after each "correct" to point out the irony.
     
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    #120
    From where I sit, those were justifications for his racism.

    Racist Code word: terrorist - Muslim
     
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