U.S. officials identify Fort Hood Attack Terrorist as Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan

The Fort Hood terrorist killed 12 people and wounding 30 others today before being shot to death.

The US needs to get tougher on terrorists both foreign and domestic.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33678801/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/?GT1=43001

 

So he's a terrorist because he has an Arabic name? Was the Virginia Tech shooter a few years back a terrorist? Maybe he was just a crazy guy who shot a bunch of people. Sadly, these types of horrible events happen quite often in this country... but when it's a white guy who does it (and it usually is a white guy...) nobody calls it "terrorism" ... why jump to that conclusion here? Is there any evidence of that?

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note this part of the story: "The base is surrounded by the town of Killeen, where a man shot and killed 23 people in a Luby’s restaurant in October 1991." Was that a terrorist attack too?

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It sounds like the guy was depressed about being sent to Iraq... Sometimes people just flip their lids and go crazy... I think it would make more sense to look at what about our society makes people do this so often instead of making nonsensical statements about "terrorism" just because the guy has an Arabic name.

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luckily, apparently the guy is alive. I say luckily because it would be nice to get to the bottom of his motives which may be easier to do with him alive.

 

One thing that you can say about President Bush and Vice President Cheney is that they keep America safe.

The Obama Administration, Attorney General Eric Holder and Nancy Pelosi are more interested in attacking the CIA and closing Gitmo than they are in going after terrorists.

The Asscoiated Press has reported that Hasan was already known to federal law enforcement about postings that discussed suicide bombings.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33678801/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/?GT1=43001

 

LOL - Do you remember Sept 11th 2001?

 

it seems to me that there was signs that this guy might have started tu become unhinged to say the least.
i wonder if any psychiatric evaluation has been made on him. and if not why?

 

He was a doctor himself who was helping soldiers with their combat stress.

 

and? i know that. he should have been evaluated for sure.

 

Terrible. Condolences from Israel.

He is son of Palestinian parents from Jerusalem who received Asylum in the states.
He was born and raised in the USA but listed himself in Arlington, Virginia as having "Palestinian Nationality".

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_fort_hood_shooting_suspect
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8345944.stm

Naturally, he was as a devout Muslim who attended prayers regularly. So we have the "religion of peace" in action again......

 

Major Nidal Malik Hasan, shouted "Allahu Akbar!" — "God is great!" in Arabic — before opening fire, base commander Lt. Gen. Robert Cone said.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,572448,00.html

 

Chaos's bigotry at its best, too bad for you that I do not forget, remember this?

you reply was he is not Egyptian!!! He is American!!!

despite he was born in Egypt, completed his first degree in Egypt, and did this research in Egypt ..etc

and now, about this incident you focus on his Palestinian parents, and his religion, despite he was born and raised in US, and knowing that U.S. Army Base Violence Has Bloody History

 

Incredible statement.

9/11, Pentagon, Iraq & Afghanistan War, Katrina, Virginia Tech

Wow!

If they find out this guy really didn't do the shooting, it will be just another example of the U. S. press trying to inflame and incite against certain groups of people.

 

Don't forget the swine flu (H1N1) was something Bush created as well to punish the poor and dark skinned. They created it in the same lab they made AIDS in.

 

That must be the same place politicians store their brains just before they take office.

 

That's a very interesting part of this to me... It seems like he heard so many horror stories about what has gone on in our wars that he started to lose his mind and... this senseless act of violence was the end result.

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One very strange thing about this is that he was a Virginia Tech graduate... I mentioned the VT massacre as another mass killing incident where nobody called it a "terrorist" act... although in a way it was, because the guy was trying to punish people for not being "Christian" enough (yes, you read that right... that was his motivation.) I'm on a bit of a tangent now, but I think that's a very interesting thing. Certainly if a Muslim killed a bunch of people for not being "Muslim" enough a lot of people would call that terrorism, why isn't it terrorism when someone does it in the name of Christianity?

Anyway... I'm actually a Virginia Tech graduate myself. With these two guys and Michael Vick... We're starting to get a very strange reputation.

It's truly pathetic for someone to use this event for political purposes. PATHETIC. Honestly, that is just disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself. Blaming this on Obama makes as much sense as blaming the 2007 VT massacre (which killed over 30 people) on George W. Bush. Nobody did that. As much as those of us on the left hated Bush, nobody did that. You know why? Because it makes no freaking sense.

Similarly it makes absolutely no sense to act like this violence has anything to do with President Obama.

Furthermore, It's obviously ridiculous to say that Bush/Cheney "kept us safe" when they allowed the biggest terrorist attack in US history to happen on their watch (and yes, you can rationally lay blame on them for that, because they clearly took their eyes off of the terrorist threat when they came into office.)

You're missing the point. No one blames the swine flu on Bush. That's just stupid. But, on the other hand, you do see right wing lunatics blaming Obama for the swine flu or saying that it's some "conspiracy." You hear about that all of the time. That's the point of what he was saying. Right wingers are absolutely out of their mind with hatred of Obama, to the point where they are blaming him for everything (see bogart above) and seeing conspiracies in everything (see Glenn Beck.) It's true madness.

I do think Bush deserves blame for the wars and somewhat for 9/11 (as there's ample proof his administration didn't take the terrorist threat seriously, read Richard Clarke's book for details.) But I wouldn't blame random acts of violence (like the VT killing) or the swine flu or anything else like that... that just doesn't make sense. That's the problem with the right wing attacks on Obama, they are absolutely nonsensical. They just make no logical sense. At all.

 

Wow, never read anything about the VT guy's comment, can you post the link please.

 

Nidal Malik Hasan <--the name himself looks like Al quaeda too...dont you guys think?

 

Really, can you point to these right-wing nuts who say that the swine flu was created by Obama? That would be as crazy as blaming Katrina on Obama. Why would Obama be killing people as the savior? That doesn't fit his role.

 

Yeah... that kind of makes my point. Very little was reported on this angle. But he was a Christian and he said that he was disgusted by the superficiality/hedonism of his college classmates. Ironically enough, his motivation may have actually been that he "hated them for their freedoms." Of course that's only part of it. He was picked on a lot and just had a lot of built up anger, so he was probably looking for some reason to do what he did.

Cho Seung-Hui, the Virginia Tech murderer, claims he is "like Jesus Christ" and died for his children, brothers, and sisters. Cho says he stood up to the rich hedonistic snobs to inspire weak and defenseless people.

It's hard to find references to this (again, making my point) but here's where I copied the above from: http://www.christiannewswire.com/news/52332862.html

 

For several hundred years the US has worked hard to balance the protection of all people,the protections of minorities, and the protections of the general public.

It is not a cut and dried easy thing to do. The only thing that is simplistic and easy is to make a blanket statement one way or the other, such as blaming an entire race, religeon on one hand, and or attributing no subsequent terrorist attacks on the US following 9/11 to Cheney and Bush.

Both statements are simplistic. They are far from the truth. They don't recognize or protect individuals. They both tend to lead to extremism.

Look, in Pakistan right now, the Taliban disembowels and kills anyone they want to...to enforce their militant tribal regimes. There are no protections of anyone over there.

During WWII, the US interred Japanese Americans. Later the nation apologized.

The action to do so and the reactions are all part of a delicate balance to protect the entire population and to protect individual rights. It is simply a delicate balance and difficult to do within a democracy and within a nation that makes a mighty effort to protect the individual and protect minorities, with an overall perspective of protecting the entire population. We end up taking actions. In retrospect those on the political side, one way or other tend to yell, scream and use them to their advantage in the political debates. Whoever knows what is right during the immediacy of the actions needed to be taken during times of emergencies.?

Its not simplistic.

As to the commentary that Bush and Cheney "saved" the US from subsequent attacks, that is a great example of how truth is twisted by the political people in the world.

Nobody knows why we haven't faced subsequent attacks. Nobody has all the answers.

David Rohde, the journalist who was captured and held hostage by the Taliban in Pakistan for 7 months and then escaped wrote about his experiences while being captured.

He was subsequently interviewed by Charlie Rose on TV. Most of the TV interview was a rehashing of his article. But Rose additionally asked Rohde of his opinion on why the US hadn't suffered attacks by the Al Queda/the Taliban subsequent to 9/11. Additionally Rohde was heavily interviewed by the CIA upon his escape.

The CIA specifically wanted to know about the potential connections between the Pakistani Govt Intelligence and the Taliban/Al Queda. There are many suspicions that the Pakistani Intelligence has been helpful to the Taliban and Al Queda.

Rohde, didn't have a specific absolute answer. He responded that he thinks that Muslims in the US have not responded to the extremists and terrorists that try to infiltrate them.

Rohde was an important source for US Intelligence. We don't have easy source of information there. US Intelligence takes all that information and feeds it up the food chain to the top of the Admnistration.

Then the administration does with it what it wants. It makes statements that are invariably somewhat political, supporting its own point of view.

When Cheney asserts he and Bush were responsible for protecting the US subsequent to the 9/11 attacks....that is simply him being Political. It isn't necessarily factual at all. Who the f*ck knows?

I for one, would rather not label this killer as a terrorist at this time. The guy is still alive. Let the experts question him. Let them investigate him.

Let the facts fall out with our best experts at the moment. I wouldn't rush into judgement one way or the other. The mother f*cker shooter is a horrendous villain.

But lets not label him yet. That ultimately isn't good for all of America and all Americans.

 

Interesting article, now I do remember reading something about his comment. Still not sure how his comment could be similar to what you are comparing him to. How does this compare to islamic terrorists? His motives where not from the Bible, he was not following the teachings of Christ was he?

On the other hand we have islamic terrorists who are following the teachings of mohamud who kill the infidels. Do you see the difference here?

Let's say you are in math class and they taught you 2+2=4 and then you go get a job in accounting where you do all your additions adding one more because you believe you should, so now 2+2=5 to you. Can you blame that on your math class or your own belief system?